New pool build in Dallas

goofygrinNovember 1, 2010

Finally closed on our refi a few weeks ago and signed paperwork for the pool and new fence last week. This forum helped a lot with a ton of reading material and ideas.

87' perimeter

3.5-6' depth

8x7' spa (minimum, larger in the plan)

large tanning ledge with flagstone

white plaster

Jandy 1.5hp variable pump

Jandy LXi 400kbtuh nat gas

Jandy Aquapure 700 salt system

PDA-PS4 pool spa controller

Small local builder that is super responsive to email and phone calls. Other builders basically ignored us (5-6 day return time on emails is simply unacceptable to me). Plus this guy will be the build supervisor so I won't be handed off from some slick salesman to another guy that's the foreman.

Also getting a new fence and gate across the driveway to open the back yard up.

3D view

Layout view

We're still pulling permits and likely the fence will go in first (our existing fence is in bad shape and will cause the pool inspection to fail). Dig starts later in November and I'll post updates since I like pictures as much as the next guy :).

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jasonlmarsh

I too would have a goofy grin... :) Love the design, I can't wait to see the progress pictures!

    Bookmark   November 2, 2010 at 9:23AM
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banana_fanna

Very pretty. Our plans are similar although we don't have a spa. Is your jump rock natural or gunite formed. If natural, sny idea how they attach it to the beam?

    Bookmark   November 2, 2010 at 10:38AM
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goofygrin

natural. I'm not sure how we're planning on bonding it. And it's a "pretty rock" not a "jump rock" for insurance purposes ;)

    Bookmark   November 2, 2010 at 12:25PM
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banana_fanna

LOL.

;-) Gotcha.

I'm stealin' that one.

    Bookmark   November 2, 2010 at 3:44PM
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goofygrin

The fence builder had to change their schedule... so they showed up yesterday and ripped out our old crappy builder fence and set new posts.

I guess this is really happening :)

    Bookmark   November 9, 2010 at 12:11PM
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goofygrin

The new fence is in... All except a couple sections that they're leaving open for the trackhoe to come through and dig.

The permits have been filed with the city. As soon as they get approved the PB will be here to dig a big hole.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2010 at 10:41AM
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ajones

hey goofygrin, really like the design and love the new privacy fence! good luck on the build and keep the pics coming. do you mind sharing who your PB is?

    Bookmark   November 11, 2010 at 12:12PM
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goofygrin

Not until it's done and I'm happy (or unhappy) :) So far we're pretty happy.

He was over this morning and they laid out the pool. I won't be home before it's dark, but I'll try and get a picture tomorrow morning from upstairs to see if it's visible.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2010 at 2:02PM
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goofygrin

The permit was approved today. We dig tomorrow. The paint on the ground looks smaller than what I imagine in my head. I hope that's normal.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2010 at 4:22PM
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goofygrin

I'm live streaming the dig via webcam :)

Here is a link that might be useful: webcam info thread

    Bookmark   November 12, 2010 at 8:25AM
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goofygrin

For those of you that didn't catch the live webcast... you missed the most riveting thing I've seen all year!

J/K


They got the dig done, even with a couple rain showers (cold front came through).

Tomorrow is steel and plumbing.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2010 at 5:31PM
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goofygrin

And how it looks now with the track hoe out of there.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2010 at 5:34PM
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goofygrin

steel is done. The spa is gonna be awesome. Really big which is what we wanted.

In steel alone the pool looks very deep. I'm guessing once you put 6-12" of gunite on there its not as big.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2010 at 6:53PM
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goofygrin

The plumbers and electricians were here today doing the rough ins.

The inspection is tomorrow and if that goes well, gunite on Wednesday.

Going fast!

    Bookmark   November 15, 2010 at 9:45PM
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jasonlmarsh

where are the pics? :)

    Bookmark   November 16, 2010 at 9:02AM
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goofygrin

You mean of mud with pipes in it? There's not a lot to look at at this point honestly.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2010 at 9:31AM
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goofygrin

Passed inspection, so tomorrow it looks like gunite.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2010 at 3:24PM
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goofygrin

Pictures from Gunite:

From the deep end to the shallow. The gunite at the bottom of the pic is where the jump rock will be bonded.

Big bench on the back wall (aka where the dads will sit to see the TV under the arbor [if I put one in]).

Spa and the tanning ledge with the rough for the bubbler. There will be a rock cascade from the spa to the ledge.

Spa -- the four lower jets that are on the top of the picture are more than just eyeballs (more therapeutic). When I set in the lower side, the water lever will be a couple inches below the top of my shoulder (6', long torso). On my wife it will be almost to her chin.

There will be a eyeball jet in the floor (for sore feet :)) and a fountain (which we didn't want, but it was put in since it was standard).

It actually looks like a real pool!

    Bookmark   November 17, 2010 at 3:06PM
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jasonlmarsh

Looks Awesome! I love the big shelf right next to the Spa.

    Bookmark   November 18, 2010 at 9:34AM
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ncrealestateguy

Why are the drains in the spa so far below the surface of the gunite?
Nice looking pool so far.

    Bookmark   November 20, 2010 at 7:25AM
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poolguynj

ncr is right about the spa drains. The pool's drains are sticking up in the air and a bit close to the wall. Why?

The lower back jets seem to be very low too. The potential for an unwanted enema is significantly increased here. Remember, the plaster will further reduce the discharge level, bringing it even closer to a user's sit-down point.

The foot well jets and spa wall jets will be uneven due to the unequal water pressure at the different levels and the use of a single pump.

Are the duals individual jets or two outlet jet bodies?

Scott

    Bookmark   November 23, 2010 at 7:28AM
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goofygrin

Not sure about the spa stuff. It's a bit late to change the jets in the spa, but we had the same concern (low). Those are adjustable eyeball jets for my wife's sciatic pain, so she did want them somewhat low. (something like this:

The drains in the deep end aren't close to the wall. What you're seeing close to the wall are vents for water under the shell that will be filled in before plaster. We had a lot of rain and the PB didn't want to worry about floating the shell.

    Bookmark   November 23, 2010 at 9:57AM
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goofygrin

Some new pictures of the tile and coping going in.




    Bookmark   December 2, 2010 at 11:43AM
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goofygrin

The "decorative rock" was placed today. 1100# worth.

    Bookmark   December 2, 2010 at 12:51PM
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goofygrin

Long time no post. Sorry I was on a cruise ship in the Caribbean :)

While we were gone, the deck was poured, the coping finished, flagstone laid on the shelf, sprinklers repaired, sod laid, retaining wall finished up.

Tomorrow the new gas meter goes in and I think that plaster is scheduled for later this week (depending on the weather).

It's all coming together quickly :)

I'll try and get some pictures tomorrow. It's a tan stained, not sealed concrete rock finish (this is the builder's base finish) and IMO will be perfect for our hot summers.

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 9:23PM
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srbami

I love it! Cannot wait to see the finished project!

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 9:46PM
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goofygrin

Well we didn't pass preplaster inspection due to issues with the fence. Some were minor (like the gate clasps were 1/2 an inch too low). Some were not so minor. We either have to put a fence in around the pool or put a fence in separating the pool from the driveway or put an autoclose on the driveway gate. None of which we *want* to do, so we're exploring options.

Pictures:



    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 11:09AM
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jasonlmarsh

Is it something you can do just to get through the inspections, then remove afterward?

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 3:45PM
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goofygrin

ya we could, but we found a company to put in a safety fence around the pool for $1200 or so. We'll do that... that way maybe I won't have to fish out a wet dog that decided to check out the water all the time... and the kids won't fall in when they go back there to play and we're not watching that close.

Hate to lose a kid or pet because I was too cheap to get the pool fence installed.

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 4:58PM
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poolguynj

Check to see if the inspector will accept it 1st! They don't by me.

Scott

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 5:54PM
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goofygrin

Well it was good enough, we passed preplaster :)

    Bookmark   December 20, 2010 at 2:02PM
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cakelady_2010

Congratulations on a beautiful build! Love the the combination of natural stone colors and decent at the spa. Your choices for decking and tile blend in so nice. Looking forward to seeing it filled with water!

    Bookmark   December 21, 2010 at 9:04AM
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goofygrin

Plaster going in today so we'll see how it looks.

We went with white plaster (wasn't enough money in the budget for something else).

    Bookmark   December 21, 2010 at 12:08PM
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partypond

Any new pics?? Would love to see your finished project. How do you like the color of thewater with white plaster? We are trying to come up with the $$ to upgrade to QuartzScape but we will see. I hope all has gone well with the rest of the build.

    Bookmark   January 7, 2011 at 10:30PM
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RollTideTX

Would love to see how this ended up. We are building a pool very similar in style and materials and would like to get an idea of what the end result will look like. Thanks for posting the progress pictures. Everything looks great so far!

    Bookmark   January 16, 2011 at 9:15PM
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goofygrin

The weather has NOT been cooperating here. We've had no clear days since xmas basically. Couple that with not a day off since xmas where I'm getting home in the dark and pictures of the hole in the back yard have not been all that important :)

We got our final inspection passed last week. So pool school and turnon for the heater (tomorrow on that) and we'll be swimming (finally)

    Bookmark   January 17, 2011 at 4:56PM
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brentr_gw

goofygrin, it is my understanding that you must not put salt and use the SWG and the heater for at least 30 days. Apparently these will interrupt the curing process for the plaster. I hope Scott, poolguynj and others more experienced that I will chime in. Good luck and please continue to post pics.

    Bookmark   January 17, 2011 at 6:19PM
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poolguynj

It's not that it will interrupt the cure. When salt is added, it needs to be brushed. Sometimes, there is a rock. Pushing it around can mar the finish.

Sometimes, there may be impurities in the bag. New plaster is at it's most vulnerable for the 1st month. Lets not risk staining it.

Scott

    Bookmark   January 17, 2011 at 7:17PM
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jackty

I love, love, love your design. We are at the very beginning stages of thinking about building. If it's not too forward, would you mind sharing your cost? I know that pools are priced differently based on where you live but I"m just curious. FYI, we live in TN.

    Bookmark   January 17, 2011 at 8:41PM
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goofygrin

It's 28 days from plaster/fill today.... The PB has not turned on the SWG, drone or heater. They didn't even vacuum until last week. That's one of the benefits of this PB, they do all the stuff for the first month or so (brushing, cleaning, water setup, etc.). It's been cooooold too, so I'm glad I've not had to get in the water.

Our cost was low 40's.

We still have landscaping to do around the pool and to hide the equipment. We had the option to put the equipment around the house, but we wanted the side yard for other purposes (kids, dogs, garden). That space by the fence was going to go unused (in our experience with friends with pools), so we put everything over there and will fence/plant mask it.

Pictures:
From the jump rock

Turtles at night

    Bookmark   January 18, 2011 at 11:51AM
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