new pool construction SW Fort Worth

ravi_pMarch 18, 2011

About to start construction on new pool. Would appreciate any advice/suggestions.

POOL SIZE: 20' x 40' DEPTH: 3' x 5' x 8'

6" BAND WATER LINE TILE, CHOICE OF FLAGSTONE

POOL PERIMETER: 120' SQUARE FOOTAGE: 741'

1,600 SQ. FT. DECKING. CONT. STAMPED CONCRETE (UNSTAINED),

PREMIUM WHITE PLASTER

SHALLOW END STEPS, 9' X 11' TAN LEDGE W/ 2 BUBBLERS, (2) 5' DEEP END CLIMB OUT SEATS

AUTOMATIC CLEANER � LUTRO LEGEND W/BOOSTER PUMP

60 SQ.FT. DE. FILTER, 3 HP PENTAIR INTELLIFLO VSRS VARIABLE SPEED PUMP, DUAL TIME CLOCK

500W POOL LIGHT

8'X 8' SPA, INSET ISLAND , 5 JETS, PERIMETER SPILLWAY, 400K BTU PROPANE HEATER, CENTER FOUNTAIN, WRAP AROUND BENCH SEATING, TILE VENEER, GAS LINE RUN

4" STEEL REINFORCED CONCRETE EQUIPMENT SLAB TO BE WITHIN 50' OF POOL

12"X 16" BOND BEAM [4 EA. #4 REBAR], ENTIRE SHELL [#3 ON 8" X 8" CENTERS]

TWO SURFACE SKIMMER, TWO SAFETY DRAINS (FOUR SAFETY DRAINS IF A BOOSTER PUMP IS USED FOR WATER FEATURES)

FIVE SCHEDULE 40 RETURNS W/ ADJUSTABLE EYEBALLS

POLYVOID EXPANSION JOINT BETWEEN COPING & DECK [DECCO SEAL]

TELESCOPIC ALUMINUM POLE, LEAF NET, 18" BRUSH

FOUR IN ONE TEST KIT, THERMOMETER, INITIAL START UP CHEMICALS

A ROCK CHARGE OF UP TO $2,000.00 COULD BE ASSESED IF HOE RAM IS USED DURING EXCAVATION (NOT INCLUDED)

$49,990.00

(options- not included in above price)

OPTIONS:

NEXUS MELODI SAVI L.E.D. LIGHTING SYSTEM( 4 LIGHTS)- $1,750.00

PENTAIR INTELLIBRITE COLOR L.E.D. LIGHT POOL/SPA COMBO- $ 1,480.00

INTELLIPURE SALT SYSTEM- $1,200.00

POOL COVER RESOURCES AUTOMATIC TRACK COVER - $9,800.00

EASY TOUCH 8 COMPUTER W/ WIRELESS CONTROLLER- $2,100.00

INTELLITOUCH 8 COMPUTER SYSTEM W/ IPAD(ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER APPLE PRODUCTS W/ WIFI OR CEL SERVICE) FOR CONTROLLER- $3,200.00

24� X 7� PLANTERBOX FEATURE , STONE COPING STONE VERTICAL VENEER- $5,100.00

2 SHEER DESCENTS @ $550.00 A PIECE- $1,100.00

2 L.E.D. LAMINAR FLOW JETS @ $1,200.00 A PIECE- $2,400.00

ADDITIONAL INTELLIFLO BOOSTER PUMP (REQUIRED FOR WALL FEATURES)- $1,100.00

18� X 12� RED WOOD CEDAR ARBOR (STAINED), 8" X 8" POSTS, 2" X 10" DOUBLE HEADERS, 2� X 6" RAFTERS, 2" X 2" RUNNERS- $4,752.00

ADD COLORED PLASTER W/ QUARTZ - $1,100.00

ADD DIAMONDBRITE/PEBBLE SHEEN/STONE SCAPES INTERIOR FINISH- $4,900.00

ADD SUNDECK TO 1,600 sq. ft NEW POUR DECK @ $3.00 A SQ. FT- $4,800.00

ADD SUNDECK TO 1,500 EXISTING PATIO@ $3.25 A SQ. FT.- $4,875.00

ADD TRAVERTINE COPING ON POOL, PLANTER BOX AND VERTICAL VENEER- $4,180.00

18 LINEAR FT OF SHADOW BOX BARRIER AROUND SHOWER- $540.00

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RollTideTX

How exciting! We are finishing our build up now in Aledo. We haven't swam in our pool but we already love it. I would go with the salt system, LED lights, and the upgraded finish on the pool (the Pebblesheen is ideal but quartz is nice, too if you don't want to throw the extra money at it). Look forward to seeing the progress!

    Bookmark   March 18, 2011 at 10:12PM
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poolguynj

This is going to be a pretty pool I noticed a few things that may warrant some considerations.

A Clean & Clear Plus 520 square foot cartridge filter is better in arid locations. You won't blow off water backwashing and it is a better match to the pump's capabilities.

The sheers and lams don't need an Intelliflow. Too much pump and since these are infrequently used, that's a lot of money! A single speed will do quite nicely, properly valved and extra returns in the pool to take any overflow unless the sheers are four foot wide each. They should have their own filter too unless the suction outlets are in the wall where they can't pick up debris on the bottom.

Make sure the autocover has all high grade stainless hardware. Often, they come with galvanized.

Does that include a spool cover that can accommodate matching coping. This is how the service crews get to the cover's mechanicals. Is the spool to be above or below ground?

Are the cover's tracks under or over the deck?

How long is the fabric warrantied for? The Texas sun is powerful and it's UV rays will have an effect on the vinyl's life expectancy. Find out what the current cost is to replace the fabric and ask what the cost was five years ago. That may help you to estimate what the cost will be when the fabric does need replacing down the road.

Pricing Diamond Brite with Pebble is the same? Here in NJ, there is a significant delta in pricing.

While I like the negative edge look of a spa entirely in the pool, in this case, it seems like wasted space near the two walls. It also makes for a long reach to a spa-side controller, something I highly recommend. The iS-10 control will allow you to turn on the spa, raise and lower the pump speed and temperature, and turn on your your lights and water features. These controls, I should note, are water resistant, not water proof and should not be submerged but rather deck mounted.

Why only five spa returns? An eight foot spa can easily accommodate eight and the IntelliFlo can certainly drive them with enough pressure.

I would also expect the cover to rub on the other two edges when it opens and close. Auto covers depend on the water for support. They aren't drawn tight like a spring loaded safety cover. This will create a lot of additional wear on both the edge material and the cover material. The only one that will lose in that situation is you since the cover and the edge repair costs will likely come out of your pocket

Scott

    Bookmark   March 19, 2011 at 7:42AM
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ravi_p

Thanks Scott and RollTide. I will pass the information along to my builder. I will keep you updated. Love your pool Rolltide. We narrowed our builder to complete backyard - I saw where he was in your final two.

    Bookmark   March 19, 2011 at 10:31AM
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poolguynj

Oh, and please take care of the obligation to the original designer you hired Ravi.

Scott

    Bookmark   March 19, 2011 at 2:31PM
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paradigmdawg

It looks like you are in La Cantera? We are in SW FTW too.

That looks like a nice design, do you mind telling me who the builder is? I would upgrade to Pebble Tec at all cost for a pool like that.

I love the simple Geo lines of the build. We had our pool built 2 summers ago and love it. I went for my first swim day before yesterday, got to love Texas!

    Bookmark   March 20, 2011 at 9:22AM
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poolguynj

Lets wait till he pays a bill that is seriously past due to a forum member who has made many valuable contributions to our forum.

No. It isn't me. I am sure Ravi knows exactly what I am talking about. I won't name who it is but if you've been here for any length of time, you'll figure it out.

Scott

    Bookmark   March 20, 2011 at 12:02PM
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ravi_p

I was not aware of the overdue bill (my fault) but that is corrected and taken care of. Chris did design an amazing pool - not able to use his design however because of safety concerns (worried about how a pool cover could go over a lagoon style pool). We had a near drowning in our neighborhood so we decided to go the rectangular pool route to more easily incorporate the automatic pool cover - don't know if it's actually safer but we feel better with the cover psychologically.

    Bookmark   March 20, 2011 at 12:46PM
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poolguynj

I am glad that you and he were able to get that issue resolved.

As for the lagoon shape and an auto cover auto-cover, they are not mutually exclusive. In fact, the easiest way is to simply put the cover's tracks on the deck. This actually makes the cover stronger.

Scott

    Bookmark   March 20, 2011 at 2:28PM
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