3/4" backflow valve drips

marknmtAugust 5, 2014

Watts Series 009 valve is 7 or 8 years old. Periodically it discharges as designed, but now it has started to drip constantly. I installed the kit (large o-ring, diaphragm, and rubber seat) and cleaned everything carefully. It still drips. I called the water company and they said there were no significant variations in water pressure going on currently. (It dripped before I installed the kit, so I don't think I caused it.)

The valve does not drip if we are using the water, i.e., if the toilet is running or we're running water anywhere- even just a small amount.

I appreciate any help. Thank you.

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
justalurker

You could be experiencing thermal expansion. Do you have a thermal expansion tank on the cold side of your water heater?

Buy one of these Watts pressure gauges with the tattletale needle.

Do you have hard water? Did you see white deposits in the valve when you rebuilt it?

It could just be a bad vale.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 1:20PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
marknmt

We do not have a thermal expansion tank. We do have hard water, but I didn't notice any undue buildup when I disassembled the unit. One thing that just happened that might be relevant is that we got a lot of rusty grit the last time we opened the tub faucet a few minutes ago. (We do that so that any excess pressure on the house side is gone when we open the supply shutoff. That way we don't get the discharge or the drip).

I have shopped for the tattletale valve in the past but didn't find it readily. I'll try again.

Thank you.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 1:32PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
justalurker

If you have a closed system (and you do because you have this valve) and you don't have a thermal expansion device (expansion tank) then you are subject to dramatically high pressure spikes.

click here to learn about thermal expansion

That Watts pressure gauge is a part number IWTG and here's the link... http://www.watts.com/pages/_products_details.asp?pid=647 There's a where to buy button on that page.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 2:01PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
marknmt

Thanks- very helpful. Two locations within easy distance. I'll pick one up today.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 2:30PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
marknmt

Hooked up tattle-tale guage and haven't seen any dramatic spikes yet- seems to hover between 65 and 80 psi.

But wife may have fixed the problem by running the tub until she quit getting grit in the water. Since then it has settled down.

I called the backflow specialist at the water company and they acknowledged that the work being done on water mains a few blocks away no doubt caused water hammer and most likely dislodged some junk, and it is entirely possible for a backflow valve to be affected by it.

So I may have a solution; time will tell.

Thanks again for your help. I appreciate it a lot.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 5:22PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
justalurker

Leave the gauge installed for a few days and you may see thermal expansion spikes. If you do then install a thermal expansion tank on the cold side of the water heater.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 6:13PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
marknmt

I moved the tattletale gauge to an outdoor faucet which has several feet of exposed pvc. When the sun hit that corner the pressure went up to about 120 psi. I turned off the water to that pipe and drained it, so it currently is out of the system.

No more problems to date.

    Bookmark   August 6, 2014 at 3:30PM
Sign Up to comment
More Discussions
Does reverse osmosis water corrode copper plumbing? The answer ..
The answer is YES. I did a very unscientific study...
ohmmm_gw
LaToscana Novello Thermostatic Shower Valve
Trouble with LaToscana Novello Shower Valve- no hot...
bathroomblues1
New under mount sink - drain off-center?
I had a new granite countertop installed with an under...
mike_lee2
shower neck leaking
Just installed a shower head (in new construction),...
sid_79
Garden Hose iced over
Ok, I know I was stupid. I'm new to home ownership...
Cassandra
People viewed this after searching for:
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™