Will Adjustable Drawer Divider be useful?

Kristen HallockMarch 15, 2013

I am having 2 sets of Pot & Pan drawers. They will be 2-drawer stacks. I didnt want the skinny top drawer since they cuts down on the depth of the lower drawers.

I was going to have an adjustable drawer divider installed on 1 of the drawers. My thinking was for some plastic cutting boards, muffin pans, baking pans, etc...

Does anyone know if items like this will fit in here? Stupid me didnt measure my pans at home to figure this out first and I am ordering this afternoon after work. Its only a $45 mistake if my pans dont fit.

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debrak_2008

I don't see the point of dividing larger items. I have no dividers in the drawers with my dishes, casseroles, pots or pans. Thinks don't really move around. Drawers with smaller items dividers are useful.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 11:35AM
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Kristen Hallock

Yeah I dont see the point with pots and pans either, but my idea was to use this to store things like cutting boards and cookie sheets sideways. I am not sure the drawer is deep enough for that.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 11:49AM
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debrak_2008

Do you have a cabinet for flat pan/sheet storage? I can't recall your diagram. If not consider it. Some put it above the refrigerator. I have a 9" bottom cabinet with no drawer for flatish stuff.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 11:53AM
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nycbluedevil

I put adjustable dividers in two of my pot drawers and the drawer that holds all of my plastic storage containers. They are not critical but what it does let me do is lay things on an angle against the divider if I need to, thus letting me store things that are taller than I otherwise could. I have three-drawer stacks in inset cabinets so the height issue was important to me. If you are only doing two-drawer stacks, it may not matter to you.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 12:02PM
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Kristen Hallock

debrak - no. I didnt put a cabinet like that in. I have one now and it is a 12" wide lower cabinet. In my new plan that is going to be a 15" wide cabinet and it has 3 drawers. Should I change it to tray dividers? I am thinking I should. Maybe I will have a skinny drawer on top to hold food wrappings like plastic wrap and tinfoil and then have a door on the bottom for tall flat items.

Here is the layout. The 15" cabinet I am talking about is next to the dishwasher.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 12:11PM
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kompy

I only had the dividers in my last kitchen for tupperware items. It was AWESOME for that. Lids and different sizes of containers stacked nicely and wouldn't tumble over.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 1:22PM
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debrak_2008

What are you putting in the cabinet above your refridgerator? Many here on GW put flat stuff up there. I did the 9" cabinet which works for my kitchen. I also have a 15" 3 draw base. Mostly has tupperware.

Only you can decide what will work best. I would not like to have to dig through a pile of cookie sheets. Personally I would want that stuff in a cabinet like I now have or over the refridgerator. If you do the bottom cabinet really consider not having a drawer. I just looked at mine and it would be much harder to see and grap what I want if there was a drawer there.

There are some photos on GW of those with deep drawers who put slot type divider for some of these things. You would have to measure to see if your stuff will fit or not if you go that route.

I know you are going tonight to order, but if you are not sure. Wait until at least tomorrow so you have time to iron out the details.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 1:26PM
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jakuvall

I put them in for pots and pans all the time BUT ihave them made shorter than the drawer- 5.25" high. That allows lids and up to 11" fry pans to be put in on an angle for clearance. It also allows saucepans to be placed on their sides -one with hanle left facing back and one handle right facing forward. Max of 3 per drawer works best.
I do not want to be rummaging through a stack when I'm cooking.
Few colandars are in the wash right now but here is a quick pic
Edited to add these drawers were done 9 yrs ago before I had access to adjusatble ones I like. (Two pins for each end, e rows of holes, dado in end of divider- take zero room from drawer)

This post was edited by jakuvall on Fri, Mar 15, 13 at 14:40

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 2:10PM
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dilly_ny

I have a double drawer stack. I use the bottom drawer for pots and pans and the top drawer for prep items such cutting boards, mini chopper, elec can opener, colander, etc. I stand up the cutting boards and place them flat against the drawer side. I don't have dividers and I don't feel they would help, though jakuvall's set up seems useful.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 2:36PM
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Kristen Hallock

Thank you.

Now I am pondering if I should change my set of 36" pot pan drawers to 3 drawer stacks instead of 2-drawer stacks. I think I will be doing crap like this until I just order and then I cant keep changing my mind.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 2:41PM
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a2gemini

We have lots of wide drawers and semi-adjustable dividers - Love them - I store my pans on their sides and lift them out without having to take out multiple pans

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 5:24PM
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jakuvall

For pots and pans with dividers. Frameless - 3 drawers (my pic) framed 2 drawers one with an interior pullout. Is what I do most. In custom I sometimes use 3 and alter the sizes, in inset I omit the intermediate rail to gain 1-1/2" of height.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 7:26PM
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taggie

I can't even wrap my head around not wanting dividers, they are so useful. Like jakuvall, I think making them lower height and adjustable gives you the best of all options. If you don't like them you can remove them and no harm done, but dollars to donuts you will keep them and probably even wish you had more. I even put dividers in my 9" wide tray drawers, let alone my wider pot drawers.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 9:46PM
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2LittleFishies

I LOVE my adjustable dividers. They were almost stationary and am so glad they are adjustable or else I would not have been able to fit some of the taller items. I simply removed some of the dividers to make a bigger space for the item(s) to lay against.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 10:27PM
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psyohe

I wanted the adjustable dividers to, but the guy building my cabinets did not understand what I wanted. I sent him a picture too.

Anyway, now I have a 36" wide pot drawer with no dividers. Is there any way I can add dividers now? Thanks, peke

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 11:45PM
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jakuvall

Peke- the dividers in the picture I posted were added after wards. At the time adjustable were not available to me. I worked out a good spacing, slightly differant in each drawer. Removed drawerheads and screwed into dividers, then replaced drawerheads. Actually more efficient than adjustable with control over spacing. Mine have been in for 9 yrs and have added/removed items and no regrets.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 12:04AM
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a2gemini

I think you can add them if you are good with tools or ask the GC to add. I moved mine around a lot initially but once set, I haven't touched for about 6 months. I am so glad I had some flexibility but would have liked even more slots but KD couldn't grasp this option.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 5:22AM
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andreak100

a2g - your dividers appear to be 1/4" and the others I see here look to be 1/2" - have you found any issues with having them thinner? I like the idea of them taking up less drawer space, but don't want them bowing either. Looking again at your photo, it appears that you don't have really heavy cookware in that drawer (LC, cast iron, etc.) so maybe that would factor in as well.

2littlefishies - if you're still following this thread, I like your dividers...what size drawers did you show and how far apart do you have the grooves? That set up looks like it gives a lot of flexibility. I wonder with you having these in place a little while, would you have preferred shallower dividers like what jacuvall and taggie showed?

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 8:57AM
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berner43

Lee Valley carries a drawer divider that you can put in existing drawers. I have them in my bathroom. They are very inexpensive $4.60 for a bag of 10. They are meant to hold 1/4" wood, glass or plexiglass. I will attempt to attach a link!

Here is a link that might be useful: drawer dividers

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 9:15AM
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psyohe

Jukuvall, thank you so much. I don't know all the cabinet terminology so let me see if I can figure it out.
"Removed drawerhead" I guess it is the outside front that has the pull on it.
"screwed into dividers" I am not sure about this part.

Then you used a drill to make holes for the pins?
"2 pins on each end" (a previous post) "and 2 rows of holes". Does this mean 2 pins on top and bottom of the end of your 5 1/2" divider so the pin will fit into the 2 rows of holes that you drilled in the drawer box?

I think I just confused myself. LOL IT is possible my brain is filled with sheetrock dust! I know my sinuses are for sure. LOL

If the pins are in the divider then how can I put the divider in place....no, I have it all wrong. I saw the little pin holes in 2little fishes drawer box. Is it the same?

Your picture shows just the box and dividers. Others look like an interior box was added. That would take up room so I like what you did.

Help. I am so confused. LOL

A2, what is the material you used for your dividers? I have seen it before. Is it MDF? Did they put grooves in yours?

Taggie and 2littlefishies, I put my cookie sheets above my oven, but dang that AR double oven is tall. I might have to put them in a deep drawer like you did.

Suck great ideas! Thank you all. Peke

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 9:39AM
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annkh_nd

I'm going to try these:

Here is a link that might be useful: oxo drawer dividers

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 11:02AM
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jakuvall

The didiers picture on mine are NOT adjuustable, they are srewed from the outside of the drawer box.
The spacing was determined to allow pans to clear with some room-fry tilt, lid tilt, sauce on side, big space for more.
The description of pins is what I get now for adjustable dividers.
I have looked at ways to retrofit pins, have generally decided against it.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 11:31AM
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taggie

Peke, if you check the pictures of mine above you can see they aren't pre-made with grooves but they are adjustable.

The cabinet maker made them by cutting them just a wee wee hair smaller than the interior size of the drawers such that they wedge in so tightly that they don't move. They can be adjusted with some wiggling to pull them free and then repositioned the same way, but they don't budge at all without that effort.

Here are a few more pics of different drawer dividers done similarly. On the day of install, he asked if I wanted vertical or horizontal dividers for each drawer, and how many, and came back the next day with them for me. He does all his drawer dividers that way ... simple solution but it works perfectly!

If you can get your cabinet maker to do that for you I'd ask him to. If you can't I might even try going to home depot with your measurements and asking DH to do a few cuts for you if he has a table saw in the garage. For 10 bucks it might be worth a try to get lots of dividers, vs. spending $45 on a single one (wow that sounds like a crazy high price). Good luck!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:42PM
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psyohe

I can't believe I typed....suck good ideas!... thankfully you translated it correctly! LOL

I thought about using those metal spikes from lee's valley. I was afraid they wouldn't hold up. I like the idea of friction fitting the dividers so they don't move.

I see that some dividers are removed so pans or lids can lean. What if you put the dividers in at angle...all leaning on purpose. I can't figure out how to route it at an angle. Of course if I wanted it straight it would go crooked. LOL

Do any of you have the drawer with a drawer inside? Do you like it? Did you use the same dividers?

    Bookmark   May 27, 2013 at 1:23PM
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a2gemini

Mine are the thinner version and I do have my Staub in the lower drawer and been using for a year - so far, no bowing.
I think it might be masonite - which is easy to replace if it has problems - we use the same material in therapy and it holds up for years of hard use.
Giant vessels won't fit sideways - they are either stacked or in my corner susan. Most of my vessels are All Clad, CIA, DeMeyere, or other SS except for my Staub 2.5 qt, my LC grill pan and panini press, and my dutch oven. The LC grill now lives in the left stack, the press is in the drawer above with the lids, and the LC dutch oven is in the SuperSusan - I ran out of room - LOL

Peke - I am swapping my giant dish drawer to that format to decrease the overall weight of my giant drawer. It still isn't installed... I won't have any dividers in my double dish drawer unless I still have room for the 8 lb pegboard...

    Bookmark   May 27, 2013 at 3:58PM
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miruca

annkh - how are the oxo drawer dividers workin out for you?

    Bookmark   September 15, 2013 at 9:35PM
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westsider40

I have one drawer within a drawer and it is a big negative for me. It may be worthwhile for others and sorry no pics.

I do have dividers inI all my drawers and love them. nothing is nested so all is accessible.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2013 at 11:19PM
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annkh_nd

miruca - so far, so good! I ended up ordering a couple from Lee Valley as well, when I ordered brackets for drawer organizers. Both are held in place by pressure; the Oxo ones are taller. It would probably look nicer to have them all the same, but I'm not that fussy.

I haven't actually taken anything out of the drawer since I put things away, so my assessment is only based on ease of installation; no long-term data yet!

    Bookmark   September 15, 2013 at 11:41PM
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sjhockeyfan325

Westsiider, please tell me why the drawer within a drawer is a negative for you. We're close to ordering cabinets and were going to get two of these, so I'd at least like to hear "the other side". Thanks.

    Bookmark   September 16, 2013 at 12:43AM
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