questions: painting latex over oil

shortycakeDecember 8, 2008

We are preparing to paint trim/doors in our house. We think it is oil based, and it does not have much of a gloss. A contractor friend recommended lightly sanding, followed by liquid sandpaper, followed by two coats of semi-gloss latex. In order to hopefully avoid a big, peeling mess, we are doing lots of research, which raises lots of questions. Any insight from the expert painters here would be greatly appreciated!

1. We THINK the trim is oil paint. A painter that we hired for other paint work said it was oil paint. Some of the interior closets are yellowed, suggesting it is oil. I wiped some trim with liquid sandpaper, and it did not seem to affect the paint, or make it tacky, as some people suggest it would. However, when I tested the paint with rubbing alcohol and with goof off, a little bit of paint came off, not a lot, but I've read that oil paint should not budge. Can we be pretty sure it's oil based?

2. We tried some of the liquid sandpaper, after lightly sanding, and it did not seem to affect the paint much. We are using Klean Strip easy liquid sander deglosser, which does not specify if it's for oil or latex. It's described as "to help new paint and varnish bond adhere to old finishes. It deglosses paint, enamels, varnish & more." Will this product work on oil paint?

3. I've been reading some suggestions to paint within a 30 minute window of applying deglosser. The Klean Strip product says it can be painted over within 10 minutes but does not say anything about having to paint within a certain time period. Do we have to paint within this time window?

4. Some people say primer is required, some say sanding is sufficient. The current finish on our trim is very smooth. Do we need to prime? If so, do we need to use an oil based primer?

5. To repair small dents and dings in the trim, do we apply spackle, sand and apply primer? Do we have to use an oil based primer?

Thanks so much for your responses!

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Brushworks Spectacular Finishes

Don't waste your time or money on deglossers. You don't need them. If the trim and doors are in good, sound condition, you only need to clean them (Dirtex) and sand to dull. It must be dull! Use #180 grit sandpaper.

You must use a high quality, 100% acrylic paint to go over the prepared surface.

Paints like Pro Classic, Impervo and Muralo are made to repaint over oil or alkyd products.

Dings and nicks can be filled with spackle, sanded, spot primed and painted. Use caulk to fill gaps, let it dry and paint.

Michael

    Bookmark   December 8, 2008 at 8:30PM
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shortycake

Thanks Michael!! I think the trim looks dull, but mostly from my light sanding and not the deglosser.

I picked up SW Super Paint, per the recommendation of the guy at SW. He originally suggested oil but I told him I wanted acrylic latex, and that's what he suggested. I'm reading Pro Classic may be the better SW option, so I may try that instead. Do you have any experience with Super Paint?

When spot priming the filled in spots, can we use latex primer or do we need oil based primer?

Thanks again.

    Bookmark   December 8, 2008 at 9:15PM
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Christopher Nelson Wallcovering and Painting

When spot priming the filled in spots, can we use latex primer or do we need oil based primer?

Latex is fine.I cannot answer your question about paint as I do not use Sherwin Williams products.

    Bookmark   December 9, 2008 at 5:15AM
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