How did you pay for your new kitchen?

JFH191February 12, 2014

I'm just wondering if most people pay cash, credit or take out a second mortgage/borrow against the house?

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Last time, equity line. This time, cash.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 1:30PM
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Home equity, free store financing, and cash.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 1:31PM
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I've found in many instances in my life that "cash is king" and when I redo my kitchen this year, Cash will again our choice. I also find that it's less stressfull when you have the money in hand and if the price does increase you have the 15% extra needed for unforseen problems. If it goes over than we'll just hold off on the backsplash, or undercounter lighting etc, till the cash is built up again.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 1:34PM
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Oh, you mean the money!?!

I was simply going to say, "very slowly."

The money part for me is cash because I can't have a bank account, I gave up all credit cards, and I only have 1 mortgage on my house (a fluke) and I'm a'keeping it that way. Plus, thx to my x-DC I couldn't get a loan if I chained myself to their desk.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 1:37PM
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Severance package. In other words, blood money.

Plus zero % financing on appliances from PC Richards.

Plus a low interest unsecured LOC.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 1:40PM
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Cash -- saved for years (decade at least)

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 2:30PM
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Cash, from savings. I only buy what I can afford to pay in full.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 2:36PM
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Cash...waited until we had enough money to pay for it, put it on the credit card to earn the points, and then paid it off in full when bill came.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 2:39PM
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Tax Return & savings. We plan several years in advance for big ticket items, vacations, ect.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 2:41PM
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Credit card for the points, but paid in full with cash from savings. Everyone has to what's best for their situation, but I would never go into debt for it

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 3:33PM
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Waited 17 years (college for 2 DD's & one wedding) and finally had the cash.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 3:40PM
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Funny you should ask. For the most part - cash back from credit cards!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 3:44PM
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Anything less than 30-40k we'd pay cash. If a bigger remodel we'd finance less than 1/2 the cost of the remodel and then pay it off within 1-2 years, just like we did for our car.

Great question! Most people seem to say cash. I wonder if those borrowing don't feel comfortable saying so or if the recession changed values. It would seem that ten years ago the answers might have been very different.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 3:53PM
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Carrie B

Dad died (it's OK, he was very old & lived a very full life) and left me some money. Not a huge amount, but enough to make it possible.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 4:03PM
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Savings. We are old school I guess, our parents grew up in the depression era - cash or don't buy it and we kind of have a similar philosophy whenever possible. We saved a lot by: keeping our ceramic floor, refaced our cabinets instead of replacing them, (we did the refacing ourselves, Conestoga, really nice quality) , kept our current appliances for now (when they die we'll replace with SS), installed our under cabinet lighting and replaced light fixtures which we got on sale, in process of doing the back splash ourselves as well. We did hire a contractor to do the counter tops though. We love our new kitchen. Is it my dream kitchen? No, but this isn't my dream house either. My dream kitchen is probably in the $80,000 range, we did most of this ourselves for under $10,000 and are very happy with it.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 4:21PM
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We have done two kitchens (different houses) and are in the very early planning stages for the third. All cash. The first was done in 2000; the second in 2004. (Some purchases like appliances have been put on credit cards, but were paid in full that billing cycle.). Absent an emergency (like a fire or flood) we would not go into debt to remodel.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 4:29PM
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I should add that while I paid for most of it with cash back funding I was also very frugal. I was my own GC. DH and I did much of the labor. I did lots of comparison shopping and didn't really pay full price for anything - negotiated, had rebates, bought from craigslist, waited for a sale, etc. And when I paid I used CCs to accrue more cash back but always paid off in full.

Some cost saving tips I have if anyone is interested - buy discounted gift cards, use a cash back credit card, shop through a site like ebates, check craigslist, buy groupons and negotiate!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 4:56PM
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Now that I am a little older I am not sure which way is best. I have always cautiously preferred paying cash, first putting it on AmEx and then paying when the bill came in. But after we paid cash for so many things throughout the years I'm not so sure it was always the right thing. Some places were offering nearly zero interest and maybe it would have been smarter to finance it and leave the money in savings instead.

I also wonder if sometimes when it's all paid for if it's easier to want to change something that didn't turn out quite like I thought it would. But not sure if anyone but me would be like that!!! Maybe if we had done the whole thing at once using a great kitchen designer I would have loved it seeing the full impact of it all at once. I think as long as you don't go over your head and could pay it off if you had to there is more than one way to go about paying for it.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 4:59PM
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We did the credit card for points, paid in full, for our addition. It came from a good sales-big bonus year and an inheritance.

Now it's two years later and the yard is still a mess. I pitched a fit and we're going to float the work on a home equity line of credit and pay it off in a year or two. We're hanging on to cash right now.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 5:20PM
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Partly, this question must depend on the age of the person answering. Years ago when the kids were still growing up, we needed a new roof which wouldn't wait, and the concrete work around the house needed work. We took a second. For "new kitchen," I took all the doors and drawer faces off and refinished them for a minimal amount of money, probably around $50. My darling teenage sons were a huge help in that they dealt with all the hinges and screws while I did the stain and polyurethane.

Life moves on, the kids are all graduated from college, and we finally have some money. The actual renovation was done for cash. Had the kitchen needed re-doing as badly as that roof did, I guess we would have financed it. Since it was functional, we waited until now when we had money in the bank. Also, as carrieb mentioned, older relatives pass away which has added some inheritance money to the pot. That's not the preferred method of having disposable cash, but that is life.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 5:25PM
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Cash from savings but we did have to dip in deeper than we had intended when the project went over budget. We were also the GC and did a good deal of the work ourselves.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 5:27PM
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We had just paid off our house and dreaded the thought of taking out another loan on it. We sold some stock that had become stagnant (not from 401k or IRA). Used some one year same as cash for part of cabinets, lots of diy, shopping sales etc. I've got $1400. left until it's paid in full. I really did not want to go into debt for a kitchen.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 6:02PM
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Saved for a decade, planned within our means, paid cash (although when possible, we used a cc for the points and paid in full each billing cycle.)

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 6:13PM
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I'll admit it - I borrowed money for my new kitchen. I refinanced my mortgage from 4% to 2.375%, and got cash out for about $20K of my $30K project.

It's only been 6 months, but I love my new kitchen SO much - I'm glad I didn't wait until we had the cash. We'll live in this house for another 10 or 15 years, and we'll enjoy the kitchen every single day.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 6:16PM
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Had we left the reno at just the kitchen it would have been cash. However we had reno-creep, big time, and wound up moving out of the house for 6 months and doing a gut-job and complete home reno. Half was cash for which we had saved for a number of years and the other was a mortgage against our mortgage free house which we paid off in about 2 1/2 years.

Because of the unplanned reno-creep (OMG that is soooo very easy to become a victim of) we did nothing, no dinners out, no holidays, no extraneous spending until the unplanned mortgage was paid off. Am I glad we did it even though we didn't spend any money while paying it off - oh yea!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 6:31PM
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We paid off our house in 2010a nd my husband would completely lose it if I suggest ever going into debt again...for anything. We buy everything we can on our credit card for the rewards and pay it off every month. We are doing much of the work of the reno ourselves to save money because we have other projects we need to get done this year or next as well. Even when we did have a mortgage, there was no way in heck I would have gone into more debt to replace a kitchen that was working but not pretty.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 6:46PM
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Cash. My husband was a real prince about the whole kitchen renovation - I waited a long time for this kitchen, and he was on board with whatever I wanted - I bought high end appliances, custom built cabinets, and beautiful, expensive porcelain tiles from Italy.
He asked only one thing of me - that we have the cash ready and available before we start. And so we did. Ironically (in a good way) the year and a half that I was squirreling away cash in low interest rate bank accounts and short term CDs, the stock market sank like a stone, so we really came out way ahead than if we would have invested that money.
It was so liberating to buy things without that sickening feeling about getting us into debt with every nice thing I wanted. And besides that (I've had my new kitchen about 5 years now), it would be so depressing when the kitchen will slowly start to show it's age (so far it looks as good as new) if I were still paying it off while I start yearning for a newer and better kitchens.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 8:13PM
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OMG! this is so interesting!

Most everyone did some kind of cash, or cash + with the cash back and rebates.

I know 10 years ago I would and could have just charged it. Done. Anything I wanted.

What I also notice here is the majority didn't necessarily get their dream kitchen -- or even want to go that route. Most did what they wanted and could, planning not to lose their lives doing it.

So much for the Mystery Judgment Council who condemns any kitchen not made with a gudzillion dollars. Here's the proof: People do what they can, with wisdom (and coming here) and with good advice. Doesn't matter WHO is looking. Everyone deserves the opportunity to have been proud of completing a kitchen!

I applaud you -- and bow down to those who have a finished product. I plan to join you someday!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 8:18PM
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Cash, part of the reason it was a budget update.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 9:05PM
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Cash. We lived frugally and saved and I'm very proud that we were able to pay for a project like this in our 30s. It was painful writing those big checks though!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 9:15PM
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As so many others have said, a combination of cash, 0% financing on appliances, flooring and some needed furniture to fill the new space. Obtained a HELOC and have used it twice but paid back off very quickly. We purposely bought a lower priced home in VA in order to use the proceeds of the sale of our home in CT to renovate to our exact needs. It's amazing to have done the scope of this reno and be debt-free (not including primary mortgage, of course). Such an interesting topic. Thanks for the question, OP!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 9:18PM
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Mostly cash. We ended up carrying about 5k on my cc for a few months, but mostly because it fell near Christmas so I was spending more than normal which hindered our ability to pay it off. I got a TON of Amazon points, so I saved a lot that way too. As it accumulated, I used my points to get more stuff.

We cook a lot. We only order out 2-4 times a month. So if you add up what we saved vs the average for dining out, over the 10 years we were here we ate in enough to pay for the kitchen! Which now allows us to enjoy cooking more, and eat out less...

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 9:39PM
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I did what similar to Annek did.
I have the cash to pay it off but used CC to pay to get points and then refinanced with cash back to pay off the credit cards.
Best of both worlds. - points for CC, higher interest on investments than mortgage

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 9:59PM
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Half cash and half equity loan. I was also our GC and we did some of the work on our own. We love our reno kitchen and so far don't regret it. Our kitchen was 45 years old badly needed the reno.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 11:08PM
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I was very similar to annkh and a2gemini... had been paying cash to do the remodeling and then realized a cashout refinance down to 2.375% 15 yr was going to pay for a whole lot of remodeling. The key here is my loan to value ratio is still below 30%, so there was a lot of equity to tap. With the high marginal tax rate in California, the net financing cost is very low, and investing the cash instead is the better option.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 1:34AM
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No finished kitchen yet, but the two total gut bath renos we did (simultaneously) we saved up about half of the cash, then used no-interest financing at HD and the tile store for the rest. Everything for that was DIY except for the plumbing; otherwise we could not have afforded it. It was probably around $15k for both baths.

The kitchen has been super slow DIY and is not finished yet, so that's been cash as we go. We could continue that way as FH wants to build the cabinets, but he's got a lot of other things to do, trying to start a business, etc. so I am trying to take that off his plate. If so and we do RTA, it will probably again be cash + no-interest financing.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 9:55AM
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Also on a budget here, so had to save up cash mostly for the labor, bought items over the course of a year (or more) as the money became available.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 11:04AM
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What's most interesting to me about this topic is who is answering the question. Frankly, the people who are building showhouse kitchens (and can afford it) are not the ones answering. Almost every answer is from someone who was a) on a strict budget and/or was willing to b) compromise, c) save up in advance, d) change out part but not all of their kitchen, e) buy things on Craigslist, etc. Also, while the question was whether you used cash or credit to do your kitchen, no one has taken income into consideration. Not that I expect people to share their income on here LOL, but surely there are those who earn $40,000 a year and those who earn $400,000. There are so many more factors that go into the cash v. credit equation.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 11:42AM
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robo (z6a)

About half cash, half home equity -- basically taking the place of a small mortgage we budgeted for and didn't need. I know the frugal way would be to save up all cash and then do it, but I'll be honest, I wanted to enjoy a kitchen now, not re-do in ten years to sell the house. I'm lucky to have disposable income though! And I made a deal with my husband that I wanted the kitchen instead of a second car and insurance payments.

This is our second home and we bought knowing we'd need to upgrade kitchen and baths. I thought the income question was fair - we're DINKs and together we make almost double the median family income in our (fairly poor) area so we are comfortable but don't have, like, helicopter money. We have a lot of financial stability for various reasons (my government job, family help) which helped us make the plunge but also wanted to be reasonable and not overimprove for the area.

The big indulgence for us was moving the kitchen, which almost doubled our budget from if we had left the kitchen in its (unsatisfactory) location. Because that fundamental change ate up a lot of the budget, we went low budget on counters, tile, and didn't go for top of the line cabs, but are happy knowing we fixed the big stuff and can worry about the small stuff in the future.

Talk to me again after the next emergency expenditure though - this week it was a surprise need to refinish the hardwood floors on half the first floor!

To save cash: we are keeping mismatched stove, micro, bar fridge and dishwasher (will replace when they break), took advantage of contractor friend discounts for flooring, shopped early and stored stuff, got cheap lighting fixtures (the one thing I CAN diy when I want to replace), trolled kijiji and ebay for bargains, used IKEA butcherblock countertops and got quartz offcut for around the sink, used plain white field tile for most of the backsplash. We are not DIYers so our contractor is doing 99.9%.

Also to save money, I tried to plan everything VERY WELL in advance and communicate very clearly with our contractor, trying to minimize changes and re-dos. Somehow little things to redo still creep in here and there, though. And when the initial electrical quote almost made my eyeballs pop out of my head, I clawed way back on that and managed to cut it in half.

So far the reno creep includes floor refinishing, replacing our stair treads which was surprisingly pricey and...? We'll see what else sneaks in there.

This post was edited by robotropolis on Thu, Feb 13, 14 at 12:46

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 12:40PM
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robo (z6a)

PS I tried to save money by DIYing our powder room but it turned out our contractor had to basically re-do the whole thing except assembling the vanity and installing the faucet! The floor I thought I could save had a big hole in the tile, the vanity didn't clear the baseboard, I decided I wanted to move the medicine cabinet I had already hung, the toilet my husband installed bumped into the door, etc. etc. So it was a good learning experience but didn't leave much cash in my pocket. Looks a lot better now that my contractor fixed everything.

Was proud of myself for one thing though - vanity was a bit too high for the plumbing so I replaced vanity feet with cute adjustable ones from Lee Valley all by myself...well, with some supervision.

This post was edited by robotropolis on Thu, Feb 13, 14 at 13:55

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 12:44PM
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I saved until I had the budget plus scope creep. I paid for everything cash via cc. I haven't actually carried cash on me in forever. It's like water and has a tendency to run out of my hands, esp if it's less than a $20! I am diligent about paying any balance in full at the end of the month. I wanted to enjoy my kitchen free and clear.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 1:54PM
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Robo has a good point. We hired a GC which increases the cost of a job. My DH and I know that we are not DIY'ers. We have no illusions, we don;t pretend to know anything about anything when it comes to home renovations. I did cosmetic upgrades to our kitchen initially by repainting the cabinets, changing the hardware and changing light fixtures myself but the gut job we left to the pros.

We had leaking sinks throughout the house, 40 year old shag carpets, splitting lino, splitting cabinets, no counter space, wonky wiring, dripping plumbing and so it was time to call in the pros for a whole house reno.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 2:00PM
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I posted that we waited 17 years & paid cash but we didn't spend that 17 years just saving for the kitchen. We bought our house when it was 5 years old & it wasn't long before I wanted to replace the oak kitchen & pinkish formica. Replacing a 5 year old kitchen was unthinkable, as we had a whole house to decorate. Through the years, all the neighbors replaced their countertops with granite. I've always been willing to wait to get what I really want & I wanted to gut the whole kitchen. We finished our basement, replaced the cheap builders windows, new HVAC, paid for college, etc. Some of those expenses, we used a home eq loan, which we eventually paid off.
I thought I was getting a new kitchen 2 years ago but we walked that kitchen down the aisle (DD's wedding).
Anyway, I don't think there is anything wrong with using a low interest line of credit, knowing you'll be able to pay it off.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 2:19PM
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robo (z6a)

Another place we could have saved cash was going IKEA instead of custom cab place. I may not be handy but I can put together cabinet boxes like a pro. However, the idea gave my husband the creeps as the nearest IKEA is 1400km away, so we couldn't pop out and get a missing part or exchange a door front or anything like that. Plus we had a really tight space, so being able to customize the cab width down to the inch was very helpful.

This post was edited by robotropolis on Thu, Feb 13, 14 at 14:27

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 2:22PM
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This *is* very interesting. I don't know how much you can infer about those who haven't responded. I think we are a diverse group as far as income and age go.

My late husband took out a life insurance policy to cover the mortgage so that, if something should happen to him, I could keep the house. Well, that happened. I consider myself extremely fortunate to have a roof over my head that is paid for and keeps me warm and dry, enough to eat, and a car that starts when I turn the key. And a daughter I adore.

I only buy what I can afford. At least that's the plan. If I need a new roof, I'm ready. It's unforeseen health issues that are the wild card.

I was brought up not to talk about money and how much you spend on stuff. However, here, among GW friends, I love hearing about how a lot can be done for relatively little $$$.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 2:37PM
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I paid cash. I had money. Now I have kitchen. Wish I could afford groceries!

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 2:38PM
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I robbed a bank, stole a few cars and robbed a few neighbors. I also raided the kids bank account. I got caught though and am now in jail; so, it will be awhile before I get to enjoy the kitchen. :)

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 2:45PM
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We have the cash due to finally selling my parent's house (they're deceased). But I'm wondering what the rates are on a home equity loan, if it makes sense to finance instead.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 3:31PM
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Being that we bought just before the real estate bubble burst, HELOC was not an option and we had no HE, and still have none, to speak of. It's a good thing we're not planning to sell anytime soon as we are at least a couple of leagues under the sea.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 3:41PM
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I didn't save much money cuz I kept going on GW reading about things I had to have.
Edit: robotropolis, cute picture of your cats.

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    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 4:38PM
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We sold our old house and used the cash from that house to pay for the remodels of the kitchen, 2 bathrooms, laundry, sunroom, new gutters, etc. of the (run down) new house. Now, we blew through that cash in no time flat, so the master bath remodel and attic room addition with dormers that we had originally planned for will have to wait a few years until we have the cash for those projects. Or we might do a combo of cash and HE loan.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 4:50PM
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I'm just curious how anyone gets home loans? Maybe it's our area, but almost everyone I know has seen their property values drop by about 40%. It's been so bad, I have friends that are realtors and mortgage brokers and they can't even help people refinance their CC debt. Maybe it's just our area...but I've read it's been bad in many areas of the country.

Being in eastern Washington state, we never had the BIG real estate boom, but we sure have had the fall.

Oh, back to original question...I love a challenge, so it's paint and DIY for me :)

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 5:33PM
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Lavender : I'm on the west coast of Canada and so you'll have to take my comments out of the equation. Our real estate never fell although my children wish it would do so.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 6:25PM
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I'm on the west coast of Canada and so you'll have to take my comments out of the equation. Our real estate never fell although my children wish it would do so

Likewise, I'm in an urban area on the west coast of the United States and although housing prices fell for awhile, they didn't fall by much (or maybe they just didn't go up quite as much, as opposed to actually falling). Home loans and refinancing is big business here.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 6:29PM
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You both are lucky! I talked to three mortgage brokers yesterday and a realtor (two are friends) and they're hoping something called HARP 3.0 goes through. Everyone seems to be concerned about the future of their businesses...and even so called 'sharks' or private money lenders (at 10% and up) will no longer loan money for an owner-occupied home. Only investment properties...

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 6:44PM
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Ours was new construction and when I start thinking about what we financed v. paid for the majority of the kitchen was cash. Wow! I never really thought of it that way. Flooring and counters were financed. We paid cash for all the appliances, cabinetry, hardware, sinks, faucets, etc. Our mortgage rate is 2.62% and our investments are earning at a higher rate. There was no way we were going to invest anymore cash into the house at that low of a rate. Plus, our mortgage is short-term.

Where I was stupid is not getting a points credit card. Really screwed up on that one. My dear friend is flying 6 adults to Hawaii from Chicago-O'Hare with miles left over.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 6:55PM
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LOL, diyguyjr!

I, too, am surprised by how many are paying cash.

We refinanced our home, went from 4% to 2.875% for 10 years (we're nearly 20 years into our mortgage). We could have paid cash since I, like another poster, also inherited a nice chunk of change when my dad died over a year ago (my mom preceded him by 7 years and I'd so much rather they were still here to spend their money themselves). However, we chose to invest my inheritance instead. The return on that money has already been and should continue to be (all long term investments) higher than the interest rate on our home loan. We are, as a rule, pay as you go people - one credit card paid off each month - but both our financial adviser and a very dear friend who is as savvy about money as my parents' were said the same thing: refinance to pay for the remodeling, invest the cash. Oh, and keep your old vehicles (14 yrs and 11+ yrs) until they die. Okay by me, I'd rather a new kitchen than a new car any day!

As another wise poster wrote, each to their own. Pay cash or finance it, do whatever makes the best financial sense for you.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 7:05PM
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Cash only!!

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 7:18PM
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Surprising results. I was expecting to pop in and be one of the only cash responses but it looks like there are a lot of us. We keep things simple - if you want something, save up and pay cash for it. The only exceptions we currently have are the mortgage (that would be a LOT of saving), and the note on one of our cars that we took out because the interest rate is far below the rate of return we've been getting on investments.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 8:05PM
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I refinanced at a fixed 2.75 and my investments are doing much better than that. I am making extra payments, and in addition, I can deduct interest. If that scenario changes, I will pay off the mortgage.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 9:30PM
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Cash ... We waited & saved for many years. It was my 50th birthday gift. And kept me busy, so I wouldn't think about my age :)

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 10:35PM
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We paid cash, and made it into a game. We set pretty tough budget goals, and tried to beat those with each purchase. If you're up to it, you can negotiate the price of everything with cash, it opens up hidden discounts everywhere. We certainly did. We know that generally kitchen reno's don't pay you back fully, but our goal was to have ours ultimately make us money.

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 8:03AM
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cash for most, HELOC for balance...mostly appliances...
with the HELOC u can claim the interest on your taxes...

didn't use c.c.....

DH was GC, brother did electrical, friend did plumbing-paid him in we saved with that...

really tried to save wherever we could and i am fine with using the HELOC, i love my kitchen and appliances and it was so worth it...

when u are using cash, i feel u think twice about how much u are spending, that strategy helped us...

i don't think we would have financed the whole thing, that's not how we roll....
i guess that's what makes everyone different...we all have our own way of doing things and what works for one may not work for another...

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 8:50AM
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"keep your old vehicles (14 yrs and 11+ yrs) until they die. Okay by me, I'd rather a new kitchen than a new car any day!"

lisa, I hear ya. My car is 10 years old and I still love it (Honda CR-V). I take good care of it and have no desire to get a new one.

When I paid my car off 5-6 years ago, I took the $400/mo. and put it into savings each month. I didn't miss it and figure maybe one day I'll need a new car or have to make a repair on mine. It's added up nicely.

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 10:36AM
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Kelly Ryan

I think people are more inclined to answer when they have the "best" answer - cash only, no credit, no financing.

We took out a HELOC to fund our renovation. We have significant equity in the house and realized we happily would have purchased this house for an additional "X" amount if it had a kitchen designed to our liking. We were faced with a leak under the sink, a broken OTR MW, a too-small fridge that needed to be replaced (leaking internally), a broken cabinet care of the previous owners hacking it to fit a too-big fridge and insufficient lighting (made even worse by a 2nd floor leak that blew out the one light in the space). So while we could have paid cash to fix these items piecemeal, it would have been putting lipstick on a pig. We plan to be in this house for at least the next 10 years so decided just to take out the HELOC, do what we want, and get to enjoy it all. I think it'll be worth it! (We're still in the demo phase)

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 11:48AM
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Construction loan - had the added advantage of regular bank inspections before funds were released so schedule was kept and things were done promptly. Had a great GC and that made a huge difference - did a demo of a sun room, used the space for an addition and then did a completely new kitchen.

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 1:42PM
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"keep your old vehicles (14 yrs and 11+ yrs) until they die. Okay by me, I'd rather a new kitchen than a new car any day!"

Same here. We kept our '92 Volvo 960 going until December. It still looks great and because the transmission has issues it probably has next to no resale... I may actually buy a transmission and install it in my spare time and have the car rejoin the fleet.

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 1:45PM
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I'm enjoying this post. To add some more detail as to why we paid the time, our property value was way down, so there was no equity.

My husband moved into the 2br/1ba house that I owned. We needed a 3rd br because we both have home offices and we wanted a second bathroom.

So we had a choice, spend the same amount of cash on a down payment or on an addition. If we moved, our mortgage and property taxes would have been higher. If we stayed put, we'd continue to have the same monthly expenses and some equity.

We now have the space we need, a home we love, close friends nearby and our mortgage didn't go up. We're at the point in life where planning for what we want in retirement is even more important and the decision to make a long term investment to stay in the house won out.

Since then, prices have gone up and we refinanced the interest rate down on the original mortgage balance so expenses are even more favorable. Our goal is to retire without a mortgage.

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 1:54PM
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We are paying cash for our new kitchen and we started by paying the deposits (half of estimate) to the countertop guy (had to pick my marble slab) and the cabinet guy. I have spent HOURS and DAYS figuring out how to do the kitchen reno in several stages, which I believe will help me know what (upper cabinets for instance) I really need. So, doing the demolition, base cabinets, new range, knock down wall, move other 5' wall by 6", sink, peninsula, tape and float, and hopefully backsplash first. Later I will do range hood (having hookup and flue for hood done in first stage though), open shelving, backsplash (if can't do it earlier), upper cabinets (if I need). Lastly I will do floor. If something has to change with my plans, I may have to use our line of credit, but it shouldn't be more than $5000 or so and we will pay it off asap. Hate borrowing money. Also it helps that I found some of our kitchen floor tiles in the creek 15 years ago and saved them! They will replace the flooring where the island is getting removed.
P.S. My GC knows about this plan ahead of time and is being very understanding.

    Bookmark   March 12, 2014 at 11:55AM
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We used savings to pay for our remodel. The appliances, fixtures and anything else that could be purchased with a credit card went on the AMEX (for points and extended warranty), which is paid off each month to avoid fees. All of the appliances were floor models or "open box" items purchased when a local store went out of business. I shopped around to get the best deals on the plumbing and electrical fixtures.

Since others have mentioned cars, my parents taught me to buy late model used cars and then drive them 10+ years to get the most value from the purchase. We own one "luxury" car, but it is a 2000 model we bought in 2002 for 55% of the initial list price with only 11,000 miles on it. It has about 70,000 miles on it now (short commute to work).

    Bookmark   March 12, 2014 at 1:04PM
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We were fortunate enough to be gifted our house. We took out a home equity loan for about 15% of the value of the house to remodel. With 4 small children ranging from 1 to 6 years old, we prefer to keep cash on hand for emergencies.

    Bookmark   March 12, 2014 at 2:34PM
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I think the reason so many GWers pay mostly cash is that they are self-selected for taking care in their decisions about remodeling. They all want to get the most out of their remodel money too.

    Bookmark   March 12, 2014 at 2:35PM
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20K cash.... which I got through a cash out refinance. My interest rate did not go down much (.25%), but I did cut 1 1/2 years off the term of my loan and was able to get rid of my PMI, so my payment ended up only being $30 more than it was originally.

    Bookmark   March 12, 2014 at 6:33PM
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