Toe kick drawers - worth it or a waste?

lhartnettFebruary 12, 2011

Hi Everyone,

I posted a question a month or so ago and you all helped me along in my decision (going with creamy lacquered perimeter cabinets and wood island cabinets). So THANK YOU. I was totally stuck.

Now our cabinet maker is suggesting we add toe kick drawers. Do you have them and what can you actually store in them? While it's not much money to add, the total is adding up and several hundred here and there makes a difference.

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johnliu_gw

I am curious about this too.

Also, how can you avoid the deep bend to reach down and pull a handle 2'' from the floor? Does anyone have toe kick drawers that you literally ''kick'' open and shut?

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 8:43AM
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lhartnett

The toe kick drawers that I would get you do actually "kick" and the drawer pops open and then you can close it with your foot too. So no hardware required.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 8:51AM
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lucypwd

I wanted toekick drawers, but the cabinet maker discouraged me. I still wish I had them - additional space for small seldom used items, lightbulbs, batteries, flashlights, even a collapsible stool - the kind that lays flat. I should have insisted.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 10:23AM
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runninginplace

I talked with my contractor and like lucy's, mine didn't recommend them either. Now that I'm using the new kitchen, I'm glad I didn't insist. There is much more storage in my new kitchen anyway; in fact I've got empty space months after moving back in!

Also, you might want to consider your own age, preferences, how long you'll be in the house etc. For me, in my early 50s and not as limber as I once was and in a house I plan to be carried out of feet first....drawers at floor level aren't easily usable now or in the future. So the expense didn't justify the utility *for me*. As always, one's personal situation may justify a different conclusion. But that was mine.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 11:21AM
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desertsteph

I think a 'kick' one might be good for one of those 'steps' to reach a higher shelf - shelf 2 for me -lol!

I always thought that area was were the mice live tho...

or 1 or 2 might be good (no handle) for secret hiding of valuables like - jewelry. be sure it's in a firmly attached container tho so the mice don't cart it away...
and be sure a close - trustworthy family member knows or it might be sold with the house at your 'estate' sale!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 11:57AM
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igloochic

Sounds like a bunch of people without toe kick drawers :).

I will never have a kitchen, bathroom or closet without them. They are some if the best storage options in the world! I love them and I have them in all of those locations.

What do I keep in them.....platters and baking sheets, candles, lightbulbs, lids, my favorite....trash compactor bags, the dogs soft food dish (slide out to feed and slide it back in when done) jewelry, fancy purses, place mats gad anything under 3" tall really. All of mine are full and I love them.

I have some that are hidden so you open by the skirt which just looks like trim. I just push those to open. But the ones I use the most have a nice handle that I can (as can dh) just tuck my toe under and pull out. They're just deep pulls basically. I'm on the iPad which makes it hard to post pics but if you want to see this they are in the thread on end panel dishwashers.

They all have soft close bluhm rails etc and open quite easily. Honestly they're worth twice what you pay for them! I'll never be without them again even in a huge kitchen or bath they are fab storage for the small stuff! I have one full of bars of soap even...no end to their uses!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 11:57AM
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loves2cook4six

I have them as well and love them too However, my cabinets were custom built and the toe kick area of the cabinets was incorporated into the bottom drawers making them deeper.

This is my can storage

and this is how they look from the side:

Excuse the dust, these were taken during construction. These open by just hooking your toe under the trim and pulling. You can push them shut with your foot as well.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 3:14PM
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icarlaaa

Hi. To figure it out, you must stand at the kitchen sink for a few minutes. Rinse some dishes, wipe the sink, then look where your feet are. If you're standing close and your feet are under the lip, it shows you need a toe kick. Because without it, you may end up with back problems.

Anyways, please visit this: bar stools

thanks!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 4:19PM
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staceyneil

What's with that link, huh?

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 5:26PM
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morgne

I'll just be upfront and say I don't like them.

However. Sometimes I DO spec them for clients who have really small kitchens (or maybe the clients just saw them somewhre and fell in love). But when I do I ask for them to be like Loves2cook46's above. The drawers are deeper so I feel like they are more flexible, you aren't necessarily having to reach down as far as traditional toekick drawers and one of the best part of love's drawers though is that the handle can be out there on display with all the other handles.

So when I do them, I do them that way.

Lovely as always!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 6:24PM
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florantha

Wow! Those drawers with extra inches in the bottom must be a godsend for the owners! Thanks for a great idea I can tell someone else about. As for me and my house, we're stuck without them.

Thanks for photos, loves2cook4six!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 7:01PM
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lhartnett

My DH and I went to see them today. I could take or leave them but DH thinks it's a very efficient use of space and at $33 extra/cabinet, we'll be adding them. I can see value for things like platters and plates we use for summer parties and christmas (different set of course). Thanks for all the feedback. One more decision made!

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 7:10PM
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westsider40

I love Loves' cabs and toekick drawers so much that I am having my kitchen done by the same cab company. They will be ready the first week in March. Getting toe kick drawers too.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 7:38PM
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igloochic

I have always loved loves :) But here are mine anyhoo..

The ugly mat is gone (DH kept taking it out of the trash so I fed it to a moose):

These are touch open:

By the way, the space is sealed. You're not just sliding the drawer into an open abyss (at least not in mine). No mice (not to mention, if you have that big of an issue with mice they're in your lower and upper cabinets as well likely).

She likes them:

    Bookmark   February 12, 2011 at 10:10PM
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lhartnett

Thankyou, Igloochic. The photos are very helpful. And I love the moose! I'm in NH and we've seen them out in the swampy area behind the house but never that close and personal. Very cool.

    Bookmark   February 13, 2011 at 6:25AM
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Adrienne2011

Igloochic and Loves2cookfor6, those are really great photos. What a wonderful way to use space efficiently! I love that you fed the mat to a moose, Igloochic. My husband once kept taking this one particular thing back out of the garbage after I repeatedly threw it away, but finally I took it out on garbage day after he left for work. I wish I had a handy moose around, or a goat! :o)

    Bookmark   February 13, 2011 at 8:47AM
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lucypwd

I wish we had moose so I could feed them things that I don't want (g). My husband takes things out of the trash too - what is that - a guy thing??

    Bookmark   February 14, 2011 at 12:11PM
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flwrs_n_co

Great ideas for more storage! Thank you so much. I've thought about including toe-kick drawers but wondered what I would store in them. I especially like the idea of including them with the drawer above so I don't have to stoop quite so far to get something out. And with 2 large dogs and a cat, there's always pet hair on the floor no matter how often I sweep. Including the space in the drawer above hopefully will mean pet hair won't get into the drawer, which has always concerned me with toe-kick drawers.

    Bookmark   February 14, 2011 at 1:02PM
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threegraces

The ugly mat is gone (DH kept taking it out of the trash so I fed it to a moose)

Igloochick - that might be one of the funniest things I have read here. My DH is the same way. I just wait until he's gone for the weekend.

As for toe kick drawers - I am all about the Ikea hack to make them; I can think of lots of stuff to keep in a shallow drawer like that!

    Bookmark   February 14, 2011 at 1:14PM
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writersblock

Hmm, igloo, maybe you could start a new line of children's books: If You Give a Moose a Mat. :)

    Bookmark   February 14, 2011 at 1:35PM
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brianadarnell

I thought you were kidding about the moose! Those husbands are such pack rats...they save everything! But since its valentines day, I'll cut him a break and wait until tomorrow to re-throw some things away...

    Bookmark   February 14, 2011 at 1:36PM
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cj47_gw

I wanted toe kick drawers in my island, but I let the cabinetmaker talk me out of them. He was so against them-things would get dusty, hard to reach them, yada yada yada. Now I wish I'd have stood my ground. I think they'd be the perfect place to store the extra oven racks when I'm making something big, like a turkey. He also insisted that there wasn't room for a shallow drawer under my cooktop--but in actuality, there was. It's not that big of a deal, I have a lot of storage space anyway, but it bugs me that I let myself be talked out of 'em.

So, moose are kind of like goats? In that they'll eat pretty much anything? Wow, you learn something new every day.

:-)

Cj

    Bookmark   February 14, 2011 at 3:41PM
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boxerpups

I love the moose.

    Bookmark   February 15, 2011 at 9:28AM
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marcydc

Love the moose!

One word of caution...
I'm glad I didn't go for them. It would have been a disaster.
Turns out in my old house (1916) the floor sloped a good 1.5" from one end of the cab run to the other. GC ended up cutting off some of the cabinet bottoms so that we could have level counters. The 1.5" diff isn't noticable in the toe kick at all, but drawers would have been funky with one side shorter than the other :)

    Bookmark   February 15, 2011 at 11:02AM
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CEFreeman

igloochick,
You mentioned yours are sealed.
How?
Do they have a bottom under them, as though they were another inside drawer?

I'm building my own and have a serious mouse problem -- 4 cats who think they're animated toys and a dog who shares her bowl with them. My house isn't sealed, so if I can at least seal a cabinet, all the better.

Thanks!
Christine

    Bookmark   January 18, 2012 at 11:18AM
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WhiskyWoman

I know its a year later but I was hoping to get some info from peeps that have toe kick drawers or deeper drawers that utilize that "kick" space. I would very much like to have some but the cabinet company that I was looking at does not have them. I see that loves2cook4six's are from Ayr Cabinetry. Anybody else? ---as for the coment : By the way, the space is sealed. You're not just sliding the drawer into an open abyss (at least not in mine). No mice (not to mention, if you have that big of an issue with mice they're in your lower and upper cabinets as well likely).--- And your pantry and your countertops and maybe under the butter lid, cleaning up the toaster crumbs :)

    Bookmark   November 25, 2013 at 6:49PM
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WhiskyWoman

Also igloochic Being the moose and duck hunter/eater that I am I love those drawer pulls! The moose especially. They appear to be good quality, no?

    Bookmark   November 25, 2013 at 6:53PM
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a2gemini

Igloo - love the moose - hope it didn't come in for breakfast.
Gemini16 (from A2gemini) - I wish I heard of them and put one under my oven stack to store my trays for the advantium.

    Bookmark   November 25, 2013 at 7:56PM
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threegraces

I didn't get my toekick drawers :( Dang budget constraints (cheaper cabinet line=fewer options).

Still with I had them...and a DH's-college-notebook-eating moose.

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 4:22PM
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gpraceman55

For those of you wishing you had done toe kick drawers, I have seen posts about retrofitting them in.

How to Build Under-Cabinet Drawers

Toe kick drawers for IKEA cabinets

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 6:18PM
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olivertwistkitchen

Love mine!

    Bookmark   November 26, 2013 at 7:57PM
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DIY-Her

where can you buy these drawers?
We are about to purchase base cabinets RTA Conestoga cabinets, and I thought as long as we are putting them together, we could add a couple toe kick drawers.

I'm going with flush toe on all my lowers except the kitchen sink.
All I do is clean dust and dog hair from under there. The flush bottoms will be easier to keep clean.

    Bookmark   January 29, 2014 at 1:39PM
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susanlynn2012

What a wonderful idea to add more storage! My only concern would be in cleaning the floor with the drawers so low. I would love to have toe kick drawers for my table placemats and for other storage items!

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 3:58PM
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feisty68

In a tiny kitchen, every bit of space makes a HUGE difference. It really depends on how storage-stressed you are.

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 10:30PM
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BlackChamois

I am having toe kick drawers put in. My cabinet maker had not done them before, but agreed to do them for me.

He was trying to use a touch latch, but is finding that it won't pop the drawer out far enough for me to grab the drawer from the top - I'd have to grab it from the side (which might be a challenge in some areas).

So we are considering two other options:
1) installing a small knob or handle towards the top so that it won't be too noticable
2) cutting a groove into the top of the drawer/face plate that you can insert your finger and pull the drawer out. My concern with this is that it would allow more dust into the drawer.

Thoughts?

    Bookmark   June 27, 2014 at 7:52PM
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BlackChamois

"Also, how can you avoid the deep bend to reach down and pull a handle 2'' from the floor? Does anyone have toe kick drawers that you literally ''kick'' open and shut?"

Even if you don't have to bend down to "open" the drawer you will have to bend to get the contents out, so not sure this really matters.

    Bookmark   June 27, 2014 at 7:54PM
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