LAZYPUP + FROG (RICHARD RINARD) R.I.P. 4-25-1947 TO 2-12-2013
Oh, no! I'm so sorry to see this. Jan, my sympathy and prayers are with you.
I am so sorry. I adored Lazypup, Frog and Nephew, and will miss them terribly. Jan, my prayers are with you and his family. Hugs!
I am so sorry Jan, He seemed like a very nice man and I loved the little frogs.
So sorry to hear this. Prayers for you and family.
He will be missed. He brought much joy and information
to the table. Take care Jan and know how much we cared for him as he was a very special person.
Thank you for letting us know. I am very sorry.
I am so sorry for your loss. I always enjoyed his "company" at the table.
We will miss him. Sending you a hug.
My very deepest sympathies. He was such a kind, talented man. This is such sad news.
He will be greatly missed here. Gone way too soon. Thanks for letting us know.
I really enjoyed the time he was at the KT, he added a lot.
I'm sad he is gone.
Jan, I am so terribly sorry to hear of Lazy Pup's passing.
So sorry for you lose Jan. Lazypup's post always were a bright spot in my day.
Aw No. I am so sorry. I was thinking about him the other day actually, and hoping he and Frog would come back and say Hi. I will miss him. (((((( ))))))
Oh no, so sorry, so sad.
Too young to be gone. So sorry for your loss; thanks for posting. My sympathy and prayers to you. RIP, Lazypup/Richard...and frog.
My deepest thoughts and symphathy. I really enjoyed his posting, pictures and frog. I do hope you will post and let us know how you are. He was a very talented person.
marie from ND
Jan, I'm so sorry for your loss. He added a lot to the Table. His photography and wit were a joy to read. I feel so sad.
So sorry to hear this. Was it sudden? Seems he was just here a little while ago.
I was so excited to see lazypup's name. I thought he's come back to us. What sad, sad news. He talked so much about you, Jan. You, too, are a very special person. Thanks for letting us know.
I'm sooo sorry!
how sad thanks for letting us know
I really enjoyed lazypup and frog. I will miss him. Take care Jan! Yes, thank you for letting us know.
My thoughts and sympathy to you, to you all who knew him, and his family. I read many of his posts. He will be greatly missed but also remembered very fondly.
Yes, I, too, was thinking I would see his postings once again. Caring thoughts going out to you, Jan.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
So sorry to hear of your loss. He will be fondly remembered by all of us at the Kitchen Table.
So sorry to hear this. Thoughts and sympathy for his family and friends.
I am so very sorry to hear this news. I enjoyed his postings and especially when frog was involved in one his creative endeavors. Always brought a smile to my face. They both will be missed! RIP Lazypup.
I am very sorry to hear this news, Jan. Richard was a kind and giving man and I always enjoyed his posts. He was very helpful to me personally a couple of years ago when we exchanged emails regarding photography issues. Such a nice man.
He will be missed by many.
My condolences Jan.
I am so sorry for your loss Jan.Had he been ill or was it very sudden?
Jan (I'm assuming Jan p0sted this), thank y0u f0r sticking by LazyPup thr0ugh thick and thin. And thanks f0r letting us kn0w. I sure enj0yed his p0sts and miss his whacky sense 0f hum0r! Take care 0f y0urself!
Unexpected and unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear this, Jan.
Really sorry for you, Jan, to hear this news.
We did enjoy his humour and the quirky way that he wrote some rather commonplace information ... dressed it up, so to speak.
He added a ray of sunshine to our days, quite often - and it's sad to hear that frog croaked, as well - well, made his final croak.
Thank you for coming to let us know.
May you and the others near who loved him find peace in your hearts.
ole joyful ... but less so, today
Thanks for taking the time to let all of his friends here at the KT know. Jan - I am so sorry.
so sorry to hear this very sad news. my thoughts and prayers are with you, jan. rip lazypup and frog......
Oh, how very sad. His pictures of Frog were cute. My condolences to his family.
I am so sorry to read this. Rest in peace, Lazypup...and Frog.
Thanks for letting us know Jan... and please accept my condolences.
I'm so very sorry. I loved his sense of humor. He will be missed.
I'm so very sorry for your loss. He was a special man, indeed.
RIP my deepest sympathy to those near and dear to him. Peace is his.
So sorry to hear this. I always enjoyed his stories.
Such a loss! I am so sorry.
RIP LP and frog.
I also thought he was posting again. Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry to hear this. Quite a shock when I read the message.
My condolences to you.
So sorry to read this. I have missed him here. I enjoyed his posts and Frog also. He was lucky to have you in his life.=-I know you helped him so much!
Oh no. Yes, a special person. And he clearly indicated here that you were very special to him, Jan. My sincere sympathy to you.
So sad! I send all of my best wishes to you and all in his circle at this painful time.
LAZYPUP HAD COPD FOR MANY YEARS, AND HIS LUNGS JUST GAVE UP JAN
I am so sorry for your loss.
I'm so very sorry to hear this. May he Rest in Peace.
I am so sorry, my thoughts and prayers are with you. May he breathe deeply now.
My sympathy to you and your family Jan. RIP Lazy pup.
My sincerest condolences to you Jan-------gentle (((((hugs)))))
Thanks for letting us know. He was missed. Condolences to you.
So very sorry
He will be missed
So very sorry, Jan. He always mentioned you so fondly in his posts and Frog was always a delight. Lazypup has been missed and our collective thoughts are with you, his dearest friend.
I am very sorry to hear such sad news. My sympathy to you, friends and family.
This is such sad news to hear. He was such a well meaning person and always said nice things about his life and you. He will be missed (as he has been recently) and I send my heartfelt condolences to you...I know as his very good friend. Keep well and you know you could join us when and if you are ever ready. Thanks. Nanny
I'm so sorry.
Jan, I am so very sorry to read this. I kind of had a kinship with Richard, us both being from the same area in Ohio and his family tool. My sincere sympathy to you. He will be missed. I so enjoyed all his posts and his frog.
I'm so sorry to be reading this, he was a special person and will be very much missed. Please accept my sympathy.
I'm sorry for your loss.
Peace be with you, Jan.
May Lazy Pup R.I.P.
I hate that so many were critical of him and drove him away from the KT.
He was special in his own way.
I am so very sad to read this and you have my deepest condolences, Jan. It was kind of you to post--thank you.
I am so sorry for your loss Jan.
Sorry to hear this.
He will be missed by us all
So sad to hear Richard passing away.
I'm a fan of his posts and had archived his humorous photos of Frog & Nephew. He certainly had talent. It was sad enough when he posted a 'good-bye' and we didn't know why. This news is sad indeed.
RIP Richard and my deepest condolences to you, Jan, and love ones. He will be always remember.
Thanks for letting us know.
I am so sorry, Jan. My heart breaks for you. Richard will be missed so much on this forum. He and Frog and Nephew made a bright spot in many of our days.
So sorry for you lose Jan
(((((Jan))))), I'm so sorry to hear about lazypup. Please take care of you and visit us when you can.
So sorry to hear about your loss. It was a pleasure to read his posts, and he will be missed.
Very sorry to hear this; please accept my sincere condolences, Jan. Thank you too for being brave and kind enough to let everyone know of lazypup's passing. I feel sure he is in a happier place now.
My prayers are with you and Richard's family and friends.He will be greatly missed.May he rest if peace.
Jan, I'm so very sorry. Lazy pup was one of a kind. Thank you for taking the time to let us know.
Jan, I am so sorry to hear this news. Richard, and Frog and Nephew, were special to me and added joy to the days when he posted.
Sorry to hear this news. Very sad.
Sad news. I'll say a prayer.
So sorry to hear of Richard's passing, Jan - my condolences to you. His posts with Frog were a real delight.
My deepest condolences, I've only been here for a few months but always looked forward to his expert advice. He will be missed.
Jan, so sorry for your loss. I, too, enjoyed his posts. He had a great sense of humor and also gave a lot of good advice to people here. He will be missed.
I have to say that I can't help but wonder how Frog and Nephew are doing. Richard made them so 'real ' that it's easy ( for me) to anthromorphize their relationships.
Jan, thank you for the notice,
My thoughts go with you.
Darn it! I miss those two little frogs, and Richard, too.
Frog, and nephew are VERY SAD I am trying to give them as much atention as i can. Jan
Jan, can you give us information on the services? A link to the obit would be fine.
I too have tried to find an obit on-line without success. Rest his soul. The adventures of Frog were interesting to say the least.
I am so very sorry to see this. I always enjoyed Frog and Nephew, Richard made them come alive for everyone at the KT.
Lazypup was sorely missed when he decided it was necessary to leave the KT. This makes his loss doubly sad. Jan, you have my heartfelt condolences.
By his wishes, no services. obit should be at (google masslive)tomorrow.
There's now a huge void in all the forums where Lazypup shared his knowledge.
I am so saddened by Richard's passing. He will be missed by many. Big cyber hugs to Jan, Frog, and Nephew.
So sorry for your loss Jan and ours too. Lazypup's posts were informative and funny, he's been missed around here and now we know he won't be coming back. Sad.
So very, very sorry. He will be missed. Sincere condolences to his family and friends.
Very generous poster/person.
(((((Jan ... family ... loved ones)))))
Richard added so much to this place, with his quirky humour, as well as the useful information and plain old common sense.
I am very sorry for your loss. God bless his soul. Thank you for letting us know. Please take care of yourself.
RIP Richard. I will miss you. I LOVED your postings, when you explained things to us, and when you shared Frog and Nephew. Condolences to you, Jan -- you had a very special person in your life. . . . .
Oh this is such sad news...Sorry for your loss Jan.
I'm so very sorry.
I've been watching for an obituary.
I too looked for an obituary and could not find it. Maybe I am not looking in the right place. Could someone please post where to find it?
If anyone finds a link to the obituary, please post it. I've had no luck hunting either.
Jan, could you give us a link to the funeral home? Surely they would have an obit.
when & if it ever gets there, the link for obits is below. several options to search but despite pup being gone for several days, and us being told it should be there today...alas, it's not.
maybe pup is having fun with everyone? and i bet i'm not the only one thinking/wondering about this. :/
Here is a link that might be useful: news of his demise greatly exaggerated?
This post was edited by the_catalyst on Sat, Feb 16, 13 at 17:59
OK, I'll say it. Jan comes on 5 minutes after he dies to his a/c
and announces in CAPS that he's passed away.
She checks in periodically with updates. LP mentioned
a lot of illnesses, bit I don't remember COPD or severe
breathing problems... again in CAPS.
Now, no obit.
I think LP's doing his thing again... and thought so from the
ED. to add I'll apologize for my cynicism when I see the obit.
This post was edited by lindakathy on Sat, Feb 16, 13 at 17:42
I agree with you Lindakathy 100%. I felt the same from the very first post and the thing that gave me that feeling was that it was all in CAPS. I looked for an obit all week. Jan used Lazypups username, didn;t she have one of her own? Normally the OP would come back and thank the posters for their kind words, thoughts and well wishes. We haven't seen this, only 2 updates. After doing some Internet research, there is a Richard A. Rinard that lives(d) in Westfield, MA. That county is Hampden County. Checking the Register of Deeds there is a Richard A. Rinard that has a few filings with that county. You can see the actual documents. One deed is showing being married. These deeds were back in early 90's. So, there really is a Richard Rinard there in MA, but did he really die? I hope that I am wrong, that he is playing with the board again. I've always enjoyed his posts with Frog from the past. If there is an obit, then I will apologize also.
I did think it was unusual for Jan to post on his account so quickly after his death. You don't see that very often but everyone is different so who knows...
He did mention a time or two he had been living with Copd for quite awhile.
I never had a obit from my DH, some people don't do it.
he lived in chicopee ma.
according to the most recent update per 'jan', obit was to be published today.
This post was edited by the_catalyst on Sat, Feb 16, 13 at 19:23
Something doesn't feel right with this story but that's just mho.
Jan never had an account here, likely he did as most here would do and leave the info for informing his friends and contacts and leave his log in info, same happened a while back where the son came on to tell us of his mothers passing and used her log in.
Pup mentioned often he really did not have family and in her post Jan said he requested no services so no obit would not be unusual. I have found several of his sites with his pictures and info it is out there he always had his name on all of his pictures he posted.
I have a very good friend that has pretty much no family he has several serious medical conditions he has asked me and another friend to do the same thing, log in to his blog and website and let people know and also the forums we are on. He has an automated notification to me if he does not log into his account in a certain number of days, we do keep touch often. Should this happen I will most certainly do this for him as I am sure a good friend like Jan would do.
Believe what you will, what would it take exactly to believe?
Would an obit do it? Those can surely be faked, not sure what or why proof is needed.
I am not that suspicious and I unfortunately do believe he has gone on RIP.
Sorry so many were critical of him. Said that and saying again.
Well, I guess my old mind just simply doesn't work that way. It never even occurred to me that this could be some sort of scheme! Not everyone publishes obituaries. especially if they don't have any living relatives.
I normally lurk but am delurking for this. I have a dear friend whose brother died about a year ago. My friend lives out of state from me, so I looked for the obituary on line. Have never been able to find it. I know he had one, but it has just never shown up anywhere where I can find it. Perhaps depending on the newspaper it is in they just don't show up on line.
My condolences to Jan, Frog, and nephew. I enjoyed all of Richard's posts on this forum and elsewhere.
Oh dear. How very sad.
I'm so surprised that she didn't post this at the Plumbing Forum.
Surely she must have known it was one of his favorites.
This post was edited by tally on Sun, Feb 17, 13 at 10:30
What did I miss? I th0ught he lived in Y0ungst0wn, 0H. Is his faceb00k updated? It wasn't the 0ther day.
Am I the only one who remembers him saying he had a child? A daughter, I think. It sounded like they didn't have much of a relationship.
I suppose my memory could be faulty....
Some people don't have obituaries, sure, but the OP specifically said there would be one and told us where it would be and when. So when it didn't show up, people are starting to question it a little. Unfortunately it is hard to trust everything that is said, and giving people the benefit of the doubt has ended up costing generous KTers actual money. There have been instances of fake deaths at the KT, though the one I know of was a long time ago and it involved money, which isn't this case of course. Either way, it is a very sad situation.
I too thought Lazypup mentioned a daughter, but not having a close relationship with her.
I do remember him on occasion talking about having COPD and being hospitalized last year for a week or so.
Well, obituaries don't always go in when they're originally scheduled in my experience. As "stories" they tend to be low man on the totem pole and the first to go if the space/time is needed for something else.
The lack of an obit was only the last red flag.
The first was the original post.
Remember "GOODBYE"? That's LP's style.
Most people would have started the thread with:
"Hi, this is Jan. I know LP had many friends here
and am here to tell you that he's passed away....."
The popping in and out with a few short words doesn't
feel right. Somebody's following the thread very
closely, but there's been no response to the inquiries
about an obit.
I am just annoyed at the possibility that LP is playing the KT
In the last couple of years, our paper has begun printing a 'death notice'...about two lines, name of the deceased and the name of the business handling the arrangements if there are any being made. No services at the request of 'xxxxx' is becoming more and more common.
Actual informational obituraries are optional and not free (after decades of no fees involved) any longer. In fact, they are rather expensive, $200 is an easy amount to incur just listing place of birth, parents, spouse, immediate survivors, workplace, and add a photo or more extensive information and you've come closer to $400 with the information just appearing in the paper one day. The obit is available online in the archives for much longer, but a subscription to our paper is required to access the archives online.
Well, that's all well and good - that obits are optional.
But the poster specifically mentioned an obit and even gave the exact online address. So, if you go to masslive.com and search the name under All Massachusetts Obituaries, which pulls from all papers, nothing comes up.
It is curious.
I am new here and only found out about this site searching for obituary information on Richard Allen Rinard and if this is in fact a posting about that Richard Rinard, which from talking to my mother it sounds correct seeing she mentioned a Jan to me, then he did in fact pass away and my sister is picking up his ashes this week at the funeral home, I have been under the impression he was living in PA or OH, and just today found out he was living in the same town I live in, again if this is the same Richard then I can confirm it as I am his son and my mother has told me he didn't want anything extravagant from what we have been told. All the information I have has been filtered down to me through my sister and mother seeing as how my sister has been in contact with that half of the family. I do regret finding out he lived within ten minutes of me and I never met him, it sounds like he brought some cheer to the members of this site
Your mother and sister never told you that you lived 10 minutes from a father you've never met? How ironic.
Of course, you wouldn't mind telling us the name of the
My mother just found out and my sister was probably worried what my reaction would be, there are no services and I was told he didn't want anything crazy, not to mention I don't have all the information myself, all I know is my sister is picking up his ashes with the instructions of his wishes this week
Posted: Feb 13 2013, 10:49 AM
(I posted this somewhere else, and feel it might be appropriate to add me 2 ents here too. )
MY 2cents is that it is better to be "charitable" and naive than to be always looking for something to be skeptible about. Richard shared 'his story' with us over a period of time and entertained many of us at the KT with his wit and photography....and finally in his last months, found a way to enrich HIS life with a frog family and their stories. What IF any of it was NOT true?????? Was he asking for anything????? FAME or fortune on an internet forum? As for "JAN" .... what does it matter if she WAS a figment of his imagination (I do not think so!).... from his story, she agreed to take in a friend and share some aspect of their life in his remaining years after being 'friends' for many years. I'd say that was commendable, and we should all be so lucky. AND, even more importantly, IF this is a continuing saga of someone's imagination: maybe the world at large, should admire the fact that a imaginary life story and ending is better than none.
PS today ....I think I feel sorry for those of us who have so little faith in the human condition that they feel it so NECESSARY to just not take it at face value. I do realize that their have been people who have "used" the good wishes and prayers, even our sympathy.....Lazypup did none of that. He let us "IN" to areas of his life just to share his knowledge (perhapos that sharing came off as 'too agressive' to some, but that is all he did. I don't recall any prayer requests etc. etc......What did he ask of us???? OFF MY SOAP BOX FOR NOW.
Weird, from this post from LP last November, he indicated he talks to his son every day. Does he have more than one?
"I am no longer in Ohio, after I retired 5 yrs ago I turned the shop over to my son and I now live in Massachusetts, however I still stay in daily touch with my son and help him however I can from here, including him sending me prints and I work out the specs and material lists & such or sometimes he sends me photos of a job and I offer him pointers on how to handle it.
I also work part time with a plumber here that I have known for years and I teach some of the apprenticeship classes."
Here is a link that might be useful: Thread
"..I think I feel sorry for those of us who have so little faith in the human condition that they feel it so NECESSARY to just not take it at face value."
Don't feel sorry for me. I don't like to be scammed, conned,
taken advantage of, lied to or treated like an imbecile.
I WILLcall you out.
Interesting thread, Chi83. Lazypup sounds so much more functional--healthy and productive--than he indicated to us at the KT just last summer.
As for " always looking for something to be skeptical about," if it were anyone else, I don't think we'd see much skepticism here. But Lazypup's antics (a charitable term) make it hard to accept everything that comes down the pike through his GW account. Surely we haven't forgotten "The Boy Who Cried Wolf."
Exactly. His "antics" had gotten more and more improbable, especially the one about - was it the FBI?
Charity is a virtue, indeed. But....as we've discussed before, critical reasoning skills aren't evil, and being gullible doesn't make you a saint.
Edited to add: I guess you didn't read the link the last time I posted it. What does anyone get out of making up stories on line and watching people get sucked into them? Attention, gratification, superiority, amusement, a sense of power.
If he has died I am truly sorry. But my spidey senses are tingling.
Here is a link that might be useful: NY TImes: Faking Pain and Suffering on the Internet
This post was edited by tally on Sun, Feb 17, 13 at 14:30
Could we have some suspicious old men (and, possibly, others?) around here?
I enjoyed his stories and comments ... if it turned out that he was making those stories up as he went along ... so what?
He didn't do anything that hurt me in the slightest ..
... and if it was a con job ... I'm inclined to laugh a bit and let it lie ...
... did I just say, "lie"?
(So can we change "RIP" to "LIP" [Lie In Peace])?
P.S. So ... are some of you about to say, "Enough of your LIP, joyful!"?
I thought I would post these pictures in case you haven't seen them
En0ugh is en0ugh. If Lazypup died it's a very sad thing. If he didn't, that's even sadder. But I really think we sh0uld let him--and this p0st--rest in peace and get 0n with 0ur 0wn lives.
I totally agree, patti, wish the thread would be pulled!
Question: What made the background here change to green?
THIS IS NOT A SICK JOKE!!!!! I USE CAPS, BECAUSE I AM NOT A TYPIST. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER POSTED ANYTHING ONLINE, THERE WAS NO OBIT , BUT I THAUGHT THE DEATH NOTICE WOULD BE ON ( MASS LIVE ) I CANT FIND IT EITHER. HIS MOTHER SAID SHE WAS GOING TO PUT A OBIT IN THE "YOUNGSTOWN VINDICATOR" (GOOGLE) BUT ITS NOT THERE YET. THANK YOU T ALL THE PEOPLE OF FAITH WHO SENT MESSAGES , YOULL NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH THEY HELPED. JAN
I'm with Ol' Joyful on this one. Let it go...and let it die,lie, or rest in peace whichever suits you. It really is pitiful people have such shallow lives they can devote all this time to attacking someone they have never even known. It makes no difference to anyone except his left behind what the truth is since he asks nothing from anyone. "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"
To put it all in perspective, tomorrow will still be Monday! Let's let LP RIP be he alive or dead.
georgysmom, I agree !
This has become comical. If he's alive, he's having a good laugh at the number getting burrs in their bloomers over this, if he's dead, his ashes are jumping around laughing at the ones with the knotted knickers. Either way, good one pup! You got the hens cackling like crazy!
Since it seems to be such a big deal for some, why don't you just call the local authorities and track down the death certificate? Before someone puts in an obit for chicks and giggles. You can also check the courts for probate proceedings but maybe someone is hot on the trail of this already.
It makes me sad to read some of these posts. I have no idea if this is a hoax but I feel sympathy for those involved.
I wish peace for LP and Jan no matter what.
chi83, I picked up on that right away and see that this "so-called" son, mechanikm just registered yesterday...Sunday, Feb. 17...."fishy" to say the least. To the best of my knowledge, Richard had "one" son and one daughter. Yes, Richard did live in Ohio in the same area where my hubby and I used to live and he did work out of Youngstown, OH for a while. We didn't know him, but knew some of his relatives.
OMG just when do you think the son would have registered? years ago? HE said he found this site by doing a search for Richards name and this site popped up since there is this discussion currently going on with his name in it.
I just have to say this short of a bloody corpse I don't think some will ever be happy and even then the conspiracy theorist will scream photoshopped.
What a way to ruin a mans memorial thread.
I wish they would removed all those post from this thread and leave it as his memorial as it should have been.
Any doubters could have at least had the courtesy to do their doubting on another thread.
This has gone beyond anything questioning to just flat out disrespect and disgusting.
I would possibly expect to see something like this on a teen forum it is just crazy to be happening on an adult forum of MATURE adults.
My goodness do you hate the man that much? What has he ever done to hurt anyone here NOTHING.
Wow I bet no one ever asks a friend or husband to come to this LOVELY place to notify their FRIENDS of their illness or passing. I know I sure will remove it from my list of places to contact.
I dont know if this person is living or dead, or something else. But as just general information.
Most states nowadays don't allow just anybody not directly related to the decedent to buy a death certificate...generally 50, or even 100, years have to pass before a disinterested party can do so. And they tend to be expensive, often in the $25 range. Florida allows anybody to purchase a death certificate, but until 50 years has passed, the cause of death is blanked out.
California is still an open state, which means both complete birth and death certificates are available upon request for something like a $14 fee. Now a couple of years ago I purchased a death certificate for a Boston, MA death from 20 years ago, but I don't know the current situation as to who is allowed to request one. I recall it was in the $20 range.
Of course, since living trusts have come into vogue, there's far less probates that go into the public domain.
I believe the SS Death Index gets updated on-line monthly, So if I were checking a recent death sans an obit, that's where I would go. Don't see the "hurry" exhibited here though.