How do I get rid of rats between the ceiling and floor?

superratonFebruary 21, 2006

I have rats between my first floor ceiling and second floor. They are driving me crazy. I have bought poison, but should I wait to put it out until it is warmer outside so they will stay outside to die? Should I put the poison sticks in the gutter closest to where I hear them in the ceiling? What are the chances they will go back in and die between the ceiling and the floor, and I will have a BIG mess? Please advise.

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Cheese or Peanutbutter and traps would be best if you don't want them rotting in your walls.
Find a place where you know that they travel and place the traps.
I put one in my attic and within 30 minutes I got my first dead rat. Within 2 days, no more rats.

    Bookmark   February 22, 2006 at 10:49AM
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Warfarin and such poisons cause the rats to hemorrage and dehydrate, and they will seek a source of water. If your winters are variable in weather, ie. some days when the snow and ice melt from the sun and moderate temps, the rats will go out to die. Even if they stay in the house, they will quickly dry out. I have found carcasses that are mummified. There may be the odd one that dies in the walls, and a very short period when there may be a slight odour, but that quickly passes.

I put the poison in large squares of foil wrapped and twisted like candy kisses, and stick them in the suspended ceilings and other crevices. That's the way the pros do it.


    Bookmark   February 22, 2006 at 10:28PM
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Please don't use poison! If they die in the walls it will cause you a stinky mess. If they die outside you might inadvertently cause someone's pet to die from secondary exposure to the poison if it eats the dead rat.

The only way I have ever found to get rid of rats/mice are snap traps. They actually sell a rat sized one. Bait them with PB in an area that you can get to.

Good luck! I had to deal with the same thing this winter.

    Bookmark   February 23, 2006 at 2:19PM
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Hmmm....Sounds a lot like diddlydudette and robinwise....rats, squirrels all the same.
Could this be a case of dual personality? You decide.

    Bookmark   February 24, 2006 at 5:33PM
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For what it's worth, I just found a dead mouse in my basement that didn't make its way outside before meeting its fate. I guess I'll never know how many make it out, but I think I'd rather NOT know.

Personally, worrying about neighbors' pets is pretty low on my list. I don't think domestic animals should roaming around unsupervised anyway... even if fenced in.

Superraton, have you called an exterminator?

    Bookmark   February 24, 2006 at 6:34PM
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I hate rats. I would burn the house down. Look at it this way, You get to build exactly what you want then ! :)

    Bookmark   February 24, 2006 at 7:18PM
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I would call in a professional company immediately! We've had mice and been able to deal with them using glue traps, but that only worked when they came out of the walls into the kitchens. Just one mouse really smells horrible, so I can't imagine what it would be like to have a bunch of dead rats in the walls! They can apparently do a great deal of damage, and there are sanitary issues as well. This is one of those things I think it's just worth it to call in the professionals for. They will also help figure out where they are coming in and help you solve the problem so you won't go through this again. Good luck!!!

    Bookmark   February 27, 2006 at 9:15AM
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DCON, works wonders...

Keep your pets away from it.

    Bookmark   March 1, 2006 at 3:05PM
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Get a jack russell for house dog.Thats what they were bred for.Mine even has like a rat head mark on her back,It has ears,jaw,even has a little nose on end.Its about 6" long.So you know shes in it deep.This dog got 5 groundhogs when she was 1 year old.Killed them.Its good for us because we have registered texas longhorns and tennessee walker horses we cannot afford to lose a cow to a ground hog hole causing broken leg.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2006 at 6:49AM
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Use rat snap traps against the walls where they may be running, such as against both inner and outer walls. Orient the traps perpendicular to the wall (bait side against wall). Bait some with a little peanut butter, and others with a cotton ball scented with a couple drops of vanilla (this gets the ones that are nesting rather than feeding.) If you want to place some near the soffit vents, ducttape the trap to the end of a strip of wood first, and put the whole thing down there. Good luck.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2006 at 8:14PM
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Raisins are great for baiting traps. Our varmits could eat of all the peanut butter without springing the trap, but one tug on a raisin...

    Bookmark   March 3, 2006 at 6:44AM
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Get the jack russel!Might not get into your joist area, but they are cool dogs!

    Bookmark   March 3, 2006 at 12:25PM
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I take exception with some of the previous posts on this thread. Nothing personal, but calling in 'the pros' is not necessarily a good idea, and poison traps alone are a nightmare--don't EVER put a poison trap in your home.

When I found I had a rat problem in my basement ceiling, I called in a respected professional company. They charged me $300 to come out and they put in small poison traps for mice. Let me reiterate: I had a RAT problem--not a mice problem. I found that the rats were going crazy because they couldn't get to the poison baits in the small mouse traps. They literally were trying to gnaw through the plastic box to get the bait. So the 'pros' came back out and put in rat-sized bait stations. Great! I thought......until a rat died in a remote area of the ceiling and we were nearly gagging when we walked into the house. I had to go FIND that rat--in the ceiling--and dispose of it and several others.

The 'pros' failed miserably. If you want to kill rats that are INSIDE your house, you must get rat traps. These are a combo bait station/rat trap that will kill the rat and allow you to remove it. I've attached link that will be helpful.

I eventually solved my rat problem for good by tearing down the ceiling to find their source of entry. It was a pipe that led to the roof of my home--so the rats would come in through the pipe up top and then crawl/shimmy down and land in the ceiling. I blocked it up and that was the end of my problem. So try to go to the source and find out how/where they are getting into your house, but in the meantime get some good traps and start killing them.


Hope this helps


Here is a link that might be useful: Rat Control

    Bookmark   March 6, 2006 at 2:06PM
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We just tore out some cheap paneling in a 1/2 bath and the only insulated wall in that area was covered with mouse urine and feces. God only knows what toxins were released in the air.

If you can stand the smell of dead rodents, go ahead and poison yourself, but be prepared to disinfect if needed. And as the previous poster said, try to find out where they are entering.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2006 at 1:12AM
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My Dad used to make a dough out of plaster, flour and water and form abt 1" balls, dry the balls of dough and then place them along the bottom of the wall. The rats would eat the dough balls and die of dehydration. We only had a problem in the barn though and my Dad was concerned with poisons around the other animals and us kids.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2006 at 11:22AM
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new guy, You didn't really want superraton to "poison yourself", did you? I was absolutely petrified over a bat in my dining room and might have taken your advice at that point!!!

My limited and terrified experience was cemented by the use of "glue boards". I found a live squirrel struggling to free himself. I wanted to get the scissors and try to cut him free. My husband thinks these boards are great and won't harm the dogs. I think of them as a sort of lazy cat buffet.

Moral of the story: City girls should just stay there!

I wish you luck with the eradication of your critters. Please let us know what worked for you.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2006 at 4:13PM
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In a former home, we had a terrible mouse problem, we were overrun. We called a well-known pest control company, they came out and baited the house, and within 24 hours we not only had no more mice, but no dead ones in the walls. (At least none that we ever detected.)

I would call a pro. In fact, I did, and it worked fine.

    Bookmark   March 25, 2006 at 9:41PM
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I use d-con bait trays mixed with peanut butter for rats and squirrels.
You can also mix plaster of Paris into peanut butter and leave it out for them, but d-con is a sure kill.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2006 at 4:19PM
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I agree with the Dcon. It's the only effective methods that I have found for getting rid of the mice that were in my house. I was worried about it because I have dogs. One of my dogs occassionally catches a mouse. I tried everything but poison because of the dogs, but nothing worked. I talked to my vet about my options and he told me to go ahead and use the Dcon. He said that a mouse weigh about 30 grams. The amount of Dcon necessary to kill a mouse would not harm a 25 pound dog. Depending on the size of the rats and the animals in your neighborhood, the same might be true in your situation. You might want to ask a vet. The vet did, however, stress to put the Dcon in a place inaccessible to my dogs. He said that dogs typically die from eating the Dcon directly, not by eating a poisoned rodent.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2006 at 10:31PM
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This thread hasn't had any new posts lately, so here's mine. It's actually a little funny.

I had a squirrel run up the exterior brick on my fireplace where it pokes through the soffit and roof, and chew a hole through the soffit and into the attic. I saw it come out of the hole and run away. I put up the ladder and tacked a piece of wood trim over the hole, meaning to do a proper repair after the weather got warmer. Two days later I looked up and saw that the new wood had been chewed in half. It looked like that creature was bound and determined to make a nest up there.

That night I was kept awake by the squirrel running around in the attic right over my bed. This attic is less than 5 feet high at the center, and so is very hard to get around in. I decided to try and get that squirrel myself rather than call an exterminator. I happened to have a spring loaded rat trap (an industrial - sized version of a mousetrap). I screwed a piece of plywood to the edge of it and attached it to the underside of the soffit right by the hole in such a manner that anything going in or out would trip it. I set the trap without any bait. A few hours later - WHAP!!! It sounded like a gunshot. I went outside and saw no squirrel. No sound from the attic. By this time I had gived up and called the exterminator. He took $250 and put a live catch trap in the attic baited with a cracker and peanut butter. He left and never came back! I went into the attic over a month later and found the trap unsprung. No squirrel either.

The only thing I can think of is I must have scared the devil out of that squirrel. I repaired the hole and put some hardware cloth over the soffit around the chimney. I've had no problems since.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2006 at 1:57PM
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I have already put out the poison and the have went n the walls and died it smell so bad until I don't know how long it can take the smell please tell me what I need to do

    Bookmark   March 28, 2011 at 1:12AM
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