Backsplash Today/Tomorrow- 1/8" or 1/16" Joint???

2LittleFishiesFebruary 1, 2013

Our BS has a four tile pattern. I don't want a big grout line. GC's PM mentioned that they usually recommend 1/8" b/c sometimes too small can cause issues- may not be enough grout and sometimes tile ... now I forget the word he used but basically said there are sometimes issues. They will do whatever I want though.

Do you think 1/8" joint will be too big for my pattern?
(It is Wizard Tile-- Ribbons and Feathers pattern)

We're not doing blue but here was a board from the tile store...

Here it is with 1/8" apart: (my color is a bit different than these samples)
These SAMPLE tiles don't seem to be straight so I can't make them all equal but it's an 1/8" at the center point.

AND AT 1/16" AT CENTER POINTS:

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localeater

Have I told you how much I love your tile?
I think the word he might have used was lippage? Sometimes if the tiles aren't flat, and/or square, when you try to put them too close together you get areas where one tile is obviously higher than the one next to it. You can google gardenweb lippage for some examples. Most tile manufacturers have recommended spacing for the specific tile. I would call your tile shop and get their advice. Their sample board seems to show it really tight but, who knows how many tiles they tossed in the trash finding perfect ones to make that board?

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 7:38AM
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ellendi

Although they do look tight, they don't look even. I think by spacing further apart, you won't notice the variation.
They are tiles after all, not a single ceramic sheet. You will still get the effect of the pattern with the spacing further apart and the installation will look better.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 7:57AM
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oldbat2be

I think with the uneven tile you will need to go with the 1/8". It's LOVELY!!!!! I'm so looking forward to seeing it up and your reveal pictures. Please post progress pix today/tomorrow.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 7:59AM
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2LittleFishies

Thanks! These are the samples so I don't know how mine will be exactly but they are hand done so I assume the same variation?

Glad you like the tile : ) I can't wait to get it up! They are going to try to start this afternoon after finishing another job but I have a feeling it will be tomorrow.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 8:05AM
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EAM44

What localeater said to the letter. Call your tile manufacturer. I can't wait to see it installed!

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 8:08AM
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2LittleFishies

Wizard said generally 1/8"

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 9:48AM
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Linelle

Hey Fishies, I love your tile! Yes, lippage would be the word. You can see it quite plainly in their own sample board. I have it in my backsplash and my tiles have less variation than yours. Lippage isn't always visible, but UCLs, depending on their placement, can reveal it alarmingly. I would think that 1/8" would give the tilesetter more leeway to give you a more level surface. Can't wait to see the finished b/s.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 10:20AM
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oldbat2be

So was it today?!!! Pictures please...

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 9:35PM
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2LittleFishies

No : ( Tomorrow!

    Bookmark   February 1, 2013 at 10:25PM
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a2gemini

Can't wait - love tight grout but think you need 1/8 with your tiles.

    Bookmark   February 2, 2013 at 12:55AM
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oldbat2be

Well, it's tomorrow, are they here yet or are you and DH the 'they'?!

    Bookmark   February 2, 2013 at 8:00AM
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2LittleFishies

Ha- You're funny : ) DH and I are definitely not "they".

However, they are here and are laying the pattern out on the island as we speak.

    Bookmark   February 2, 2013 at 9:27AM
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ellendi

We're waiting......:)

    Bookmark   February 2, 2013 at 12:04PM
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phiwwy

soooo exciting! 1/8 since there is variation is what i would do (if some ended up at 1/16, they will just need to use unsanded grout).

mine went in thursday and they are grouting now! i went with 1/16 but because of slight variations i'm sure it's 1/8 here and there. unsanded grout is going in as i type.

yay! can't want to see!

    Bookmark   February 2, 2013 at 12:23PM
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2LittleFishies

Well, no grout until tomorrow afternoon but here are some pics of before tile and after. It's hard for me to love it until the grout goes in. Also, whenever something new goes in I am nervous and it takes me a few days to adjust. lol
The tiles are hand done and therefore irregular so right now the dark lines in between annoy me b/c I can see not all the lines are perfectly straight. also there are some spots where the pattern doesn't line up perfectly but if you moved the tile to line it up it threw off the pattern on the other side.

Anyway, it should end up being great. The tiles are beautiful and the pattern is SO subtle. Months ago some suggested not using it everywhere b/c it would be too busy. It is anything but busy actually. From many angles you can't even see the pattern until the light hits it right.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 7:13PM
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autumn.4

Great progress fishies! I am the same as you, adjustment period and during that time continually stare at whatever is new...fret, stare some more, then love. Can't wait to see the grout! I love that subtle pattern - so pretty.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 7:31PM
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Angie_DIY

It's looking really great! I assume your grout will make the irregularities fade away!

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 11:49PM
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taggie

It will look COMPLETELY different and much much calmer when grouted. I almost had a heart attack when I saw my tile pre-grouting. The grouting makes all the difference. It will be gorgeous.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 11:57PM
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2LittleFishies

Tile guy wasn't able to come today to grout. Crossing my fingers for tomorrow!

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 6:39PM
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oldbat2be

Surprising how much texture that tile provides and how inconspicuous it is at the same time. I am smiling just thinking about how pretty it will look, grouted.

Sometimes I am thrilled by my tile and at others, I cringe a little (my warm UCL is not good to it, am thinking about changing to the cooler color light). I think what we'd all love is a tile that looks AMAZING close up, from a distance, and especially so when it's photographed. Mine looks good in certain lights/lighting, but really 'off' in others. I've learned to take lots of pictures :)

LOVE your kitchen and all you have done!

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 7:40PM
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berardmr

I had the same feelings with my tile until it was grouted. It makes all the difference. Boy, you really hit the mark on the color of your cabinets. That yellow (barley?) is perfect!

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 7:43PM
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2LittleFishies

oldbat & Berardmr- thanks so much! I can't wait to have it grouted. Glad you like the yellow and yes, it is Barley. After all those months I'm glad I kept searching for the right color!

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 8:50PM
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francoise47

I think the tiles look great! They add a lot of richness and character in a subtle way. Can't wait to see them grouted.

(I actually always love how the tiles look ungrouted when the lines are more visible.)

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 9:38PM
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jalsy6

Fishies -
I am green with kitchen envy. Totally stunning, and so impressed at how beautifully your vision came together (from someone who's vision frequently falls short!) Can't wait to see it grouted, it will be gorgeous I'm sure!

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 9:39AM
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michelle16

Fishies, it's all looking so put together. I have a question. My hood and corbels is already installed, as yours is before backsplash. How do they tile by the curved molding under your cabinets? I have alot of little curves I'm wondering how they tile around that, do they trim the wood, or cutout the tile?? Thanks! Michelle

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 12:13PM
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michelle16

Fishies, it's all looking so put together. I have a question. My hood and corbels is already installed, as yours is before backsplash. How do they tile by the curved molding under your cabinets? I have alot of little curves I'm wondering how they tile around that, do they trim the wood, or cutout the tile?? Thanks! Michelle

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 12:14PM
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2LittleFishies

Hi Michelle! Are you referring to the light rail that meets the wall? If so, ours was installed with a space there to slide the tile behind.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 2:46PM
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wi-sailorgirl

Does anyone else hear the Jeopardy theme song playing? I can't wait for finished pictures anymore!!!!!!!

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 2:51PM
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motherof3sons

Fishies!!!! We are waiting in anticipation! Please stop our pain and tell us the backsplash is grouted, gorgeous and when you will post pictures!

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 10:38AM
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motherof3sons

Fishies!!!! We are waiting in anticipation! Please stop our pain and tell us the backsplash is grouted, gorgeous and when you will post pictures!

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 10:40AM
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localeater

Did the grout guy come yesterday? Is he coming today? I am having a bad day and need to see something beautiful. PRETTY PLEASE!

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 10:48AM
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amandasplit

Omg your kitchen is gorgeous!!!! I want one exactly like it. Is that carrera???

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 12:08PM
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michelle16

Fishies- yes that is what I was talking about. My cabinet makers installed my corbels with a space for the tile as well. However I now changed my mind and decided to tile that entire wall. So there will be a problem with some of the curvy trim pieces on the hood. Not sure what they will do.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 3:23PM
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weedmeister

I really like the color of the cabinets.

Whose hood is that?

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 3:48PM
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beekeeperswife

"Whose hood is that?"
--why, that's Fishies' Hood!!!! Wooo Hoooo

Fishies, I'm bumpin' in hopes you suddenly remember that we are hoping to see grout! Did they come back?

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 5:28PM
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2LittleFishies

YES! We have grout and a pot filler!!! woo-hoo! I took about 100 pics today so I'm going to work on a final reveal post in the next few days! We still don't have a banquette bench and new table but other than that we're pretty much done!

Thanks everyone for your interest : )

PS- weedmeister- It's a custom hood my cab maker made.
amadasplit- No, it is Vermont Imperial Danby Marble- supposed to be more durable than Carrara and it's also more expensive-- but less $ than Calacatta Gold, etc..

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:44PM
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2LittleFishies

Michelle- To clarify, Our corbels did NOT have a space behind them. Neither did the cabs. Only the light rail trim on the INSIDE had a space for tile.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2013 at 6:50PM
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