Thoughts about the Consumer Reports detergent ratings....

bookertDecember 7, 2011

Interesting for sure.... saw a friends issue and peeked for a moment.

Your thoughts?

Vaska about at the bottom! What! =)

I have a hard time with some of their ratings.

I've discovered what I like about Tide Total Care is the smell and downy like softness I get with delicates.

I don't use it for my clothing but my daughters. Notice the difference for sure.

Someone had posted awhile back the benefits of using it, but I've forgotten..

Anyone know if the SA8 has OB's? I like powder detergents best.


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I'm sure you'll get varied opinions on your question.

While not all of CR tests may be "perfect", how hard can it be to stain fabric and see how each detergent fares removing them? Seems fairly straight forward to me.

I know, what's the water hardness, what machine did they use, what cycle, etc ... I think if all the swatches were washed with the same parameters it doesn't really matter.

What I don't think they account for is different washing needs. While Tide with Bleach might be the best at removing a myriad of different stains, not everything I wash needs that kind of power. The gentler detergents which come in down the list (like Vaska) treat fabric more gently.

I have several detergents in my "arsenal" and I use them according to what I'm washing.

I would like to see CR include information like how well a detergent rinses and how it fades/doesn't fade colors. I sure wish we had detergents like in Europe (one for whites and one for colors).

As for SA8 - yes contains OBAs.

Sodium Carbonate, Pareth-25-7, Citric Acid, Fumaric Acid, Hydrated Silica, Cellulose Gum, Water, Amylase, Protease, Fluorescent Brightener (Distyryl Biphenyl Derivative), Fragrance

    Bookmark   December 8, 2011 at 12:18AM
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I concur!

Thank you for providing the ingredient info on the SA8, where did you find the info if I might ask?
I smelled some of the powder detergent at a clients and I really liked the scent! Mild and pleasant IMO.

    Bookmark   December 9, 2011 at 9:12PM
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@bookert, see link attached for where I got the ingredients.

Here is a link that might be useful: Amway - SA8 Bioquest

    Bookmark   December 9, 2011 at 9:41PM
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I'm embarrassed to say I googled and found the info after posting my reply. DUH! So sorry!
Thanks livebetter!
I don't think I will buy any at $40 + shipping + tax for 120 load box of powder. Oh well....

    Bookmark   December 10, 2011 at 7:56PM
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So where is the CR list. We all don't subscribe.

    Bookmark   December 10, 2011 at 10:34PM
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@Kappen - We cannot publish the list here, because it is copyrighted material. Perhaps your local library has a hard copy.

    Bookmark   December 10, 2011 at 11:29PM
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I seriously doubt you can get in trouble for posting the brands they tested in no particular order unless of course CR is going to attempt to assert they own all the brand names. I didn't ask for their review or any content they created.

    Bookmark   December 11, 2011 at 10:53AM
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I also assumed you were asking for the CR rank list? Why would you want to know which brands they tested if not to know the order in which they rank them?

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    Bookmark   December 11, 2011 at 11:13AM
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OMG ... I posted the wrong info ... duh ...

This should be the right one :)

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    Bookmark   December 11, 2011 at 11:48AM
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Nope I don't want rankings (nor do I really care how they were ranked by CR based on their broken tests) just brands so the above does not apply. I want brands to see if there are any I was unaware of.

    Bookmark   December 11, 2011 at 12:46PM
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Looks like I'd better turn myself in, criminal that I am.....and have been for so many years.

    Bookmark   December 11, 2011 at 12:57PM
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Asolo these online magazines would have you believe that anything they utter is theirs to dictate how its used. They however seem to be totally forgeting fair use laws which they can't have you sign away.

    Bookmark   December 11, 2011 at 2:48PM
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Kappen: Nope I don't want rankings (nor do I really care how they were ranked by CR based on their broken tests) just brands so the above does not apply. I want brands to see if there are any I was unaware of.

And therein lies the rub. A problem with just about every Consumer Reports test is that typically there are hundreds of brands, and often several variants within brands, and each variant and brand has its own strengths and weaknesses and directions to follow for most effective use.

Consumers Union cannot possibly test them all, and therefore must test only a select portion. CU's filter criteria most commonly are the rather arbitrary duet of sales figures (where available) -- to test the most prevalent brands -- and whether the products are readily available in southern Connecticut where CU is located. Occasionally, CU will wander off the reservation to test a regionally distributed product that is not found on Greenwich or Cos Cob supermarket shelves, but such instances are rare.

Moreover, if the purpose is to run standardized tests, then, a priori, any special use instructions for individual products must be ignored.

Over many years, we have used just about every variant of Tide, and had no complaints. But for the past decade or so, we have used Biokleen All-Temperature Liquid (which is the version free of enzymes), with a scoop (about 1/3 cup) of Borax added to each load. Our clothes never have been washed cleaner, and we never have had any odor problem whatsoever with our front-loading washers.

But the November 2011 issue of Consumer Reports, where the results of tests of laundry detergents were published, did not include tests of Biokleen, and did not test the effect of adding borax to a wash load.

    Bookmark   December 11, 2011 at 11:16PM
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Oh for goodness sake... Consumer Reports can copyright the actual article content as well as the graphics it created, but cannot restrict people from discussing the article as well as its conclusions. Here is what CR concluded in terms of HE detergent ranking (in order):

  1. Tide HE Plus Bleach Alternative
  2. Tide Ultra HE
  3. Wisk New Stain Spectrum Techonology Deep Clean HE
  4. Tide Plus Febreze HE
  5. All with Oxi Active HE
  6. Tide HE
  7. Up & Up HE Fresh Breeze (Target) * BEST BUY *
  8. Kirkland Signature Ultra HE
  9. Seventh Generation Natural Superconcentrated
  10. Era 2X Ultra HE
  11. Legacy of Clean SA8 plus Bioquest HE
  12. Seventh Generation 2X Concentrated Natural liquid Free & Clear HE
  13. Gain Ultra Original HE Concentrated
  14. Method SmartClean Technology Fresh Air 8X Concentrated HE
  15. Ecover Laundry Wash HE
  16. Mrs. Meyer's Clean Day HE
  17. Legacy of Clean SA8 Triple Liquid HE
  18. Clorox Green Works Natural Laundry Detergent
  19. Purex Complete with Zout
  20. Cheer BrightClean HE
  21. Purex 2X Ultra Coldwater
  22. All 2X Ultra with Stainlifter HE
  23. All 3X Ultra Small & Mighty HE
  24. Purex Complete 3-in-1 Laundry Sheets
  25. Whole Foods Market 2x Concentrated
  26. Purex Ultra
  27. Oxydol 2X Concentrated Fresh 'N Clean HE
  28. Vaska 2x Concentrated Herbatergent HE
  29. dropps 6x Concentrated
  30. Woolite Complete
  31. Ecos 2X Ultra Magnolia & Lily HE
  32. Biokleen Cold-Water 3X Concentrated HE
  33. Martha Stewart Clean Laundry Detergent HE
    Bookmark   December 12, 2011 at 2:51PM
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Who makes Kirkland, I never heard of it. I was also hoping sears would be on the list.

    Bookmark   December 12, 2011 at 11:02PM
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@sshrivastava, way to live dangerously ... LOL ... ;)

Kirkland is Costco.

    Bookmark   December 12, 2011 at 11:25PM
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Interesting to see Wisk so high up on the list. I almost bought a bottle when I was at Walmart yesterday as they had a good price on it, but I didn't care for the scent.

My daughter is bringing me some UK Persil and Ariel to try when she comes home for Christmas so I'm looking forward to that.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2011 at 9:19AM
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I don't think it's possible to have a one size fits all list for detergent because everyones water, washers and wash habits are all different. IMO, experiment around to find out what works for your situation.

    Bookmark   December 14, 2011 at 1:49PM
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P&G has snagged 5 out of the top 10 spots... Does anyone wonder why P&G produces so many different versions of Tide? This way Tide always dominates the charts. I don't think this is fair, and Consumer Reports should test the basic Tide HE powder/liquid and not the variants. Fewer Tide varieties tested = more non-P&G products

    Bookmark   December 14, 2011 at 3:16PM
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