Any low-voltage landscape lights other than Malibu?

marwagmarwagSeptember 11, 2008

I love the way my low-voltage landscape lights look --- when they work, that is. They are all Malibu Intermatic. I want to buy some that are better quality but I have no idea which ones are better. I've seen some called Manor House. Does anyone know if those are any good? My Malibu ones are constantly going out and then if I go outside and wiggle the wire near it, they go on again. This happens CONSTANTLY. I want some lights that have a better connection method, not that easy quick thing that obviously is crap. Can someone recommend some other brand low-voltage lights that are better quality? Anything made in the USA, perhaps? I don't mind spending more. I just want them to LAST. Thanks!

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lightguy

Haven't dealt with Manor House. I generally use Rockscapes, SPJ, Best Quality Lighting (cheesy name, but great stuff) and Advantage. They're all great products. I think Advantage and Best quality are the lowest priced ones. But the fixtures are solid. I can't think of any failures of any of these. And I've been selling them for a long time.

    Bookmark   September 12, 2008 at 1:09PM
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texasredhead

Are your Malibu lights metal or plastic?

    Bookmark   September 13, 2008 at 4:20PM
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mcdonaldb

I have unique lighting, www.uniquelighting.com, they are considered to be at the top, but very pricey and i think you can only get them via a contractor, my lights are all solid brass and lifetime warranty. Some other good brands are Nightscaping, and Kichler, both of which i think you can Google and find from retailers online.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2008 at 1:43PM
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frogpatch

Vista Pro, Lumiere, Nightscaping, Hadco, Kichler, Kim, BK lighting, to name a few. Go the link below and search lannscape lighting

Here is a link that might be useful: All Lighting Found Here

    Bookmark   September 15, 2008 at 4:28PM
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frogpatch

Landscape Lighting. I need spell check!

    Bookmark   September 15, 2008 at 4:31PM
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texasredhead

Maybe the OP died. All the stuff you all are suggesting is very expensive. I'm in the business. Malibu has some pretty nice stuff in metal in several finishes for about $25 pop with very good connections. On the other hand, we have installed landscape lighting that went into the thousands including stuff in trees.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2008 at 7:16PM
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kat_ofhb

^ I'm not in the business but can offer Corona as a source. Less expensive and offered in SS.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2008 at 11:38PM
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frogpatch

I am in the business also for thirty years. If you want to do a landscape lighting job correctly that will last you need good quality product. I have designed them at the ocean and years later they are still there. I currently am in the commercial lighting business and tire of complaints about cheap fixtures that fill with water.

    Bookmark   September 16, 2008 at 5:00PM
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texasredhead

Still suggest the OP died! May need lighting options for his casket.

    Bookmark   September 16, 2008 at 6:39PM
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countryboymo

I have a metal version of the malibu lights and replaced bulbs constantly. I ordered LED's from superbrightleds.com for replacements and wow they are brighter than the regular bulbs and look MUCH more expensive.. and best thing is I run them all through the night instead of a few hours at dusk for the past year and not one problem.

    Bookmark   October 16, 2008 at 12:50AM
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DavidR

they help save electricity by using a transformer that converts higher voltage electricity into a 12 v energy efficient electrical current.

Sorry to say it's not quite that simple.

First of all, there's nothing magical about a transformer. Watts are Watts. With an ideal transformer, watts in would be exactly equal to watts out. But in real world transformers, watts in > watts out - always - because of the transformer's losses (inefficiency). So all other things being equal, a transformer wastes electricity. The evidence for this is that it gets warm. Heat == waste.

But things aren't always equal. When you're talking about low intensity incandescent lights, a low voltage lamp can be (though it isn't always) more efficient than a line voltage lamp. This is because its filament can be operated at higher temperatures for a given light output. This is often the case with xenon undercabinet lights for kitchens, for example.

I may have missed some, but regrettably I've never seen any landscape lights that appear to operate this way. Every incandescent landscape light I've seen has been a low output (and thus low filament temperature) lamp. So I doubt that you gain much, if anything, by using a transformer.

There's also the greater losses in the wiring caused by the higher currents. By Ohm's law, current = voltage / resistance. So, for a given wattage, at 12 volts the current is 10 times as high as at 120 volts.

The only real advantage that low voltage landscape lighting has over line voltage is relative ease of installation.

That said, low voltage landscape lighting is a good application for LEDs. Even though they're not as efficient as their reputation would suggest, they're usually more efficient than dim incandescents. They're also right at home with low voltage. As a side benefit, they usually last much longer than incandescent lamps.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2011 at 10:22PM
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fredinva

As mentioned above, the OP is prolly long gone.
The Malibu connectors are touchy.
But I would have suggested as I've done. Cut the low votage wire, strip , twist, and maybe even solder, then
shrink tube or tape up. I have some Malibu metal lights that are about 15 yrs old. All have had LEDs replace the incand.

fred

    Bookmark   April 13, 2011 at 8:55PM
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