So if you don't want all pot lights and can't do undercabinet ...

ontariomomJuly 8, 2014

HI all,

Please help us with the lighting plan for our kitchen. We don't want all pot lights as they are downlights and we want to mix up the lighting more. Also, I dislike having pot lights positioned right over a person's head (can cast shadows over the person). We don't have any spot for undercabinet lighting as the two sets of upper cabinets go to the counter. We also have to design around a large island light which does have LED lighting under the hood but contributes to ceiling clutter.

Our ceilings are only 8 foot (which is standard in Canada). Where it shows ceiling fixture, we will be limited to flush or semi-flush. I am hoping the pendants we hang over the clean-up sink and in front of the two windows will be multi-directional and not only down lights.

Can you please let me know what needs to be reworked? I have also include an elevation picture of the kitchen. There is only a half wall behind the clean-up sink not the full wall shown. Also, there is a bigger window header over each window due to a LVL support beam over one so lots of room for a light up there.

Thanks in advance!

Carol

P.S. I did post this plan in the decorating forum too for their opinion too. However, I figured you lighting experts would bring a different take on the plan so hope it is okay to cross-post.

This post was edited by OntarioMom on Tue, Jul 8, 14 at 9:41

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David

How about cove lighting? Below is a link to an implementation using cornices to hide the actual lighting.

Pendants could be cheaper to purchase and install though.

Here is a link that might be useful: Lighted cornices

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 12:38PM
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ontariomom

That is one fabulous solution!! Thanks! Where did you find this company? They are located in Turkey. We also called Phantom lighting to see if they had a similar product, and they had nothing similar that would work on 8 foot ceilings. So, yes we will try to see whether we can get this product. Hopefully, they have a North American Distributor.

If the cost or logistics are prohibitive, we will go back to the using more ceiling fixtures.

What did you think of the plan otherwise?

Carol

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 4:04PM
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David

There were other vendors before with similar products.

The only part really necessary is the translucent cornice system. They are using high output led strips similar to those sold by environmental lights, superbrightleds, ...

An alternative is to run high output LEDs on-top of a normal cornice system offset slightly.

NuWorld lighting may have something.
http://www.nu-worlddistribution.com

Assuming just pendants and cans, getting the desired amount of illumination at night may be a challenge.
Then there is the pattern on the ceiling... A more regular pattern would be more desirable.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 7:03PM
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ontariomom

I wish I understood when you said:

"An alternative is to run high output LEDs on-top of a normal cornice system offset slightly.".

We will call Nuworld tomorrow too to see if they have a comparable product like the lighting company from Turkey.

Our light plan shows 3 regular ceiling fixtures. The ones in front of the window could be up and down casting pendants. The ones over the sink and big one over the island I assume task down lights.

I can't see I would be bothered by inconsistent cove light shadows. I think the idea is worth exploring carefully, especially considering we won't be able to have under cab lighting and given the lower ceilings limit up light fixtures. From what I understand cove lighting is a very good way to get ambient/general room lighting.

Carol

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 7:11PM
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David

Perhaps the following would be more helpful

http://www.invitinghome.com/Indirect_Lighting/Indirect_Light_List_A.htm

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 4:47PM
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David

Carol,

Following is another vendor of indirect lighting products.

Here is a link that might be useful: cove lighting + more

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 12:51AM
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David

One more ...

Here is a link that might be useful: elite trim works

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 12:57AM
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ontariomom

davidtay,

I very much appreciate all your links. We were busy with a cabinet order yesterday, but are back working on this lighting puzzle later today. I am very intrigued by the idea of kitchen cove lighting. Glad I posted.

Carol

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 10:04AM
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