Hands-free opening for trash pull-out

annesvJanuary 31, 2010

Does anyone have one? I've heard about one that you press on a hidden pedal with your foot. However, my KD said if you have this you'd have to give up soft-close. I think I'd rather have the pedal opener than the soft close.

Does anyone this style or another one? Are you happy with it?

Thanks

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kmohr

You should also look at the Blum Servo-Drive. It is a small box that you plug into the wall behind your cabinet so it can operate electrically. This lets you open your trash bin with a hands-free nudge of the hip or quick press of the hand. It is not too expensive- around $300. For years of hands-free bliss, that's worth it to me. I am having it put in during our remodel. Check www.blum.com. There is also a fun video on youtube- look under Servo-Drive or Blum.

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 10:23AM
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cat_mom

If you do a search (if the search funciton is operational today!), you should find at least a few threads devoted to foot pedal openers.

It's true, soft close and foot pedal openers can't coexist in the same cabinet (opposing functions). It is a (very) minor annoyance, having to use that little bit of "oomph" to close the trash cab door, but we very much like having the foot pedal opener, so it's a worthwhile trade-off for us. Ours is the "silver" pedal from Hafele/Hailo.

There is now a push-release type of opener that some here have used, as well as some sort of sensor system. I'm not familiar with how well they work, but i'm sure other GW'ers can advise on those.

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 10:28AM
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guppy_2009

I have one and we all love it! When hands are full it is easy to open and besides, it's a neat feature in the kitchen! you can also just pull on the handle.

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 10:36AM
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faleash

I have the Blum Servo Drive and it is one of my FAVORITE parts of my new kitchen. So worth it over and over and over. Highly recommend it!

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 1:43PM
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desertsteph

that looks great. i'd love it.

so would my dog. lol!

Here is a link that might be useful: Blum Servo Drive

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 3:07PM
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dcwesley

I bet our dog really would figure it out. We are still waiting on our cabinet install (3 more weeks!!), but at my brother-in-law's home they just use their toes to pull the trash bin out.

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 4:35PM
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PoorOwner

thanks for posting this. I was going to build my own contraption. Any idea if it's powerful enough to one a 15"x30" pull out door with trash inside?

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 5:05PM
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buehl

Hafele is one of the manufacturers of foot pedals (the only one a couple of years ago). For around $35 you can have a pedal that will be more difficult for a dog to use b/c you have to get under and then push in as opposed to just stepping on it like trash cans w/pedals (seriously, that's an issue in our house since our female standard poodle is very intelligent...she figured out the trash can quickly and she even figured out how to open a child gate!)

However, while we have the foot pedal, it hasn't been installed yet b/c my DH is resisting disabling the soft-close on that one cabinet!

Here is a link that might be useful: Thread: Foot Pedal for Trash Can

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 8:40PM
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mereanne

Servo-drive is wonderful!!! We just had ours installed and love it. One thing to consider, though- if you have inset cabinets, then there may not be enough room for two waste containers, since the servo-drive takes up room at the back of the cabinet and inset doors take up room at the front. We could only fit one waste container, but it's a big one.

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 9:05PM
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PoorOwner

how hard do you have to nudge it to trigger the servo drive?

Also you installed it but you are not using blum drawer units, correct?

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 9:14PM
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pinch_me

There's this very cheap option. I'm thinking about it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Drawer kicker

    Bookmark   January 31, 2010 at 9:46PM
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kitchen_angst

Mereanne, how much space in back should we plan on alloting for a servo drive? They sound great!

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 4:52PM
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faleash

The servo drive motor needs about 4 inches to stick out from where it mounts to the back wall including the little trigger that makes the cabinet slide out. I usually nudge it with my knee to open or close but you can give a little tug on the knob if you want. The first week or so I opened it accidentally a few times, but then got used to it. I guess I had a habit of pressing my knee into the cabinet while washing dishes! Good to know... That hasn't happened since. I don't have this on any other drawers, just one door of my under sink cabinet. You can get the exact specs on the Blum site.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 5:02PM
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PoorOwner

I researched this and it would seem like it would work with blum or ikea or even non-ikea systems if you install carefully.

Is it noisy at all when it push the drawer open? Do you guys have an outlet inside your cabinet or is it in another cabinet to provide power with longer wiring.

Also I would like to know when the trash bin is full would it cause too much weight for the unit to push the drawer.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 5:08PM
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PoorOwner

Here is what I found out. The servo drive unit has a 100lb capacity. That is powerful enough to push out drawer with a couple of cast iron dutch oven.

Also, the initial cost for a kit is around $300-$400 depending on where you look, but you do not need a kit for each drawer. You can add additional drive unit to the power supply from the kit. So I am looking at around $400 to motorize my 2 pullout units, one for recycle and one for trash.

I am still curious about the noise, and it only pushes out the drawer by a short distance, the rest might rely on momentum or you to pull it all the way out.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 6:01PM
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faleash

No noise except the noise opening any drawer manually would make hearing the slide. My drawer box has a trash bin in front and a matching recycle bin behind that. It comes out all the way gently. If I only need the trash, sometimes I'll use my knee to stop it from extending.

Hmmm, I've never thrown away any cast iron dutch ovens LOL!

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 7:38PM
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annesv

Servo Drive looks great! When its installed, can you still pull open the drawer using the knob? Or do you have to tap it?

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 9:08PM
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kitchen_angst

Faleash, what type of trash system do you have? I'm wondering about the dimensions and how you accomodated the double trash cans and the servo drive mechanism in the cabinet space.

    Bookmark   February 1, 2010 at 9:19PM
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mereanne

The servo-drive is not very noisy at all. You just have to nudge it gently or pull on the handle and it comes all the way out on its own. Likewise to push it back in. There are two power settings and we have the unit set on the higher one. Before we installed the unit, I was nervous that it might knock over one of our toddlers... that was silly, there's no way it could knock over a kid!

I just measured and it looks like the drive takes up about 4" from the back wall of the cabinet. The drawer box is 19.25" from the back of the pullout box to the front face of the inset panel.

I didn't tell DH about the servo-drive initially because I thought he would be upset by the expense. It just so happens that it is one of his favorite features in the whole kitchen and worth every penny!

    Bookmark   February 2, 2010 at 1:09AM
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faleash

annesv- yes, you can still give a little tug and it will open easily

kitchen_angst- I'm not sure what you mean by system, but my cabinetmaker made a deep drawer box so the bins would be secure. The dimensions of that drawer box are 15.5" wide by 21" deep by 12"high. I really went to town (literally) looking for the best bins to use for maximum capacity. I wanted the highest with the widest "mouth" that still fit two. These are Rubbermaid model 2806. Funny it took longer to figure these bins out than my backsplash LOL!

    Bookmark   February 2, 2010 at 11:50AM
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PoorOwner

faleash, is your cabinet as low to the ground as it looks? looks like not much room of toetick.

I am doing these cabinets which will sit about 1.5" off the floor so I am worried about accidentally hitting them open with my toes or something.. Otherwise I got the approval from the wife to get the parts for the install :)

    Bookmark   February 2, 2010 at 3:00PM
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faleash

poorowner- that's an optical illusion... I have standard 4 inch toekick space.

    Bookmark   February 2, 2010 at 3:53PM
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PoorOwner

Oh forgot to ask, do you have blum drawers or are these added to your other brand of cabinets? It needs to install perfectly contacting to detect the "nudge" doesn't it?

Thanks for your help !

    Bookmark   February 2, 2010 at 5:32PM
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faleash

Blum - yes... It needs to hit it right to make contact and trigger it to open.

    Bookmark   February 2, 2010 at 9:11PM
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buehl

~bump~

I know, it won't get it back on the hitlist, but it might save the thread from disappearing again....

    Bookmark   March 3, 2010 at 10:47PM
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PoorOwner

Hey there, what do you want to know? I have all hardware in my procession now.

There is a template for Blum tandem plus for either metal back (ikea) or wood blum drawers.

I will be installing it this weekend.

    Bookmark   March 8, 2010 at 7:51PM
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