Put heat pump condenser in basement?

blueyebearMay 26, 2013

I have an old house with a substantial masonry (stone walls, concrete floor) unfinished basement --about 2000 square feet. Temperature down there is fairly constant 50-60's throughout the year. I'm in a moderately temperate mid-Atlantic climate where below freezing winters are normal (but rarely go below 10 degrees) and highs in summer rarely go above mid-90's.

Would it not be more efficient to locate the condenser unit of an air-to-air heat pump indoors in this basement? I am using the logic that the constant-temperature basement is more or less the equivalent of using a closed loop underground geothermal system, which gets its efficiency from having a consistent source of 50 degree heat.

In the winter the discharge from the heat pump would cool the basement and in the summer it would warm it.

There are a few posts about this online but none I have found are from someone who has actually done this. Does anyone actually have any experience?

Alternatively, there is an open (probably hand dug) well in the basement. Would this work as a source for a "groundwater" open loop geo system (assuming I can somehow figure out what the gallons per minute flow rate could be)?

Any thoughts on which would be the preferable option?

I am trying to avoid the cost of laying geothermal closed loop piping underground -- it's a fairly small lot and would require drilling holes.

One last thought, if you have to drill to lay closed loop pipe, wouldn't it be easier just to drill a well and use an open loop water system? It seems you could get away with one drilled well versus possibly multiple drilled holes for lots of closed loop pipe.

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blueyebear

Forgot to say that there is an existing gas-fired hydronic heat boiler which could be used as back-up in very cold weather.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 6:46PM
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ionized_gw

The basement can not exchange heat quickly enough compared to a ground loop. It will get very hot down there in the summer and freeze everything solid in the winter.

Open loop systems will have maintenance problems, corrosion or scaling, that closed loop systems do not unless the water quality is perfect. The rates of water withdraw and injection might be problematic. (What is the pumping rate of a typical residential well vs. what you need for a heat pump?) You might have environmental permit issues with "waste" water injection into the ground water.

    Bookmark   May 28, 2013 at 5:09PM
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