Welcome to the era of X11, a colorful journey into the realm of the unknown kitchen.
Here is a link that might be useful: Link To Part X1 of this thread.
Solman, I'm glad you got your smiley party to work. The one uptopic is still broken. Not strange that you can see it and we can't. I won't give you a big long lecture about how computers work. Just trust me: it's normal.
First off, hoorah that Solman can enjoy a crazy California tortilla as much as an onsite Guatemalan one. But most of the blather on that package is hooey. In general, sprouted grains are nutritionally about the same as other whole grains. The amino acids might come into play if there's a good mix of grains so that you get a good protein equivalent. That would be very good for vegans, who in general don't get enough protein. BTW, vegans also need a lot of dark green leafies and to use cast iron (not enamelled) pans for the iron. The important part is the yumminess.
The SUN is coming!!!
For our Canadian friends. The Olympics open in Vancouver tonight. Good luck in the Curling, one of our favorites.
After a day of pounding rain we had a beautiful sunset last night. This morning, clouds and no sun.
Solman the soup was lunch yesterday. The second photo is the completed product. Simple, yet yummy.
I just had an object lesson that made me reallly aware of Missy's situation. After 9 a.m. today, here the sun has been up for a couple of hours, though there's a little high cloud still (blue skies and warmth are in the offing!) The Today Show live report--probably from Whistler, but still, was in full dark! Same time zone, just so North!
Oh. I just looked at a map. I guess we're quite a bit East of Whistler and even more East of Vancouver. That makes me feel better. :) Missy, I hope there's sun where you are!
My favorite color is Grey.
And my favorite number is 10 (with a minus) :(
Thanks Stef. Hate to say it but the Germans will clean up. Canada needs all the luck it can get.
Question: Do people in Canada actually curl, the way people here actually golf and play baseball? I know there are Alpine places where people actually luge for fun, but the only reason Americans do it is for the Olympics. Are there pick up curling games on ponds (or rinks, or whatever)? Oh! The way people play hockey! I saw on TV where dads will flood the yard with a hose so the kids can play hockey in the suburbs.
Just wondering. To be an Olympic sport it has to be played in all five continental regions, so I wonder where they're curling in Africa. I guess the five regions thing must be for Summer sports or something. I'm too lazy to look it up right now.
Hope I don't forget to watch. I love the opening ceremonies. Albertville were gorgeous though most Americans didn't "get it".
plllog, I don't think that pick up curling games on ponds etc are very common here (at least I've never heard of them), but most small towns will have a curling rink and lots of people enjoy the sport. I have curled, but never really got into it. You can see our local curling website here http://www.cochranecurlingclub.com/
Hockey is something that is absolutely prevalent. That's something you see on ponds, lakes, even backyard homemade rinks are common. Most kids dream of being 'Wayne Gretzky' someday. Street hockey is also very common. You don't need snow or ice for it. When I was little our garage door was sorely bashed up from driveway hockey. lol
An old school mate of mine is one of the guys doing the ice (installing and maintaining) for the hockey games. He's posted some great pics on FBook.
I still wonder about Vancouver for the winter games. They don't get much snow and are actually trucking/flying a lot in as the rain has melted a good portion of what is there. I remember when they (88 games) were here in Calgary - we got a strong chinook and they had trouble keeping snow on the ski jump hills.
It's very bright and sunny here today. :o) I've noticed the mornings aren't pitch dark anymore when the kids are heading out the door. Spring is coming ... ya!
Hey Solman, you forgot about the Canadian women who are favored for gold in Curling.
Looking forward to the Opening Ceremonies tonight, too.
Thanks for the info, Missy. It doesn't have to be hockey popular. :) It sounds like it has popularity similar to bocce or squash here (coasts only, I think): Have to have a place to do it but lots of people do. I miss when they used to do it out of doors with big overcoats and furry hats. Nowadays they look warm :) Even the stone looks warm, though I know they refrigerate them like pucks.
Hockey is big here too, but it's all indoors, of course. And it doesn't do well on TV. But that's also the sport. I used to love going to hockey games, but never enjoyed it on TV. And I think this whole shoot out instead of recording a tie is for the birds. When they do the tiebreaks in tennis they at least are playing tennis, just with different scoring. A body could grumble about a 5 minute OT instead of a full period, but at least it's still hockey. A shoot out???? That's like deciding a basketball game with a game of HORSE. Just because guys have to have winners. What ever happened to the gentlemanly split honors? A draw. You get one point and I get one point. Dumb, dumb, dumb. But not as dumb as the DH (designated hitter--I'm sure there are plenty of smart dear husbands out there).
I suppose I should have some breakfast. I'm sounding cranky.
P.S., Thanks for confirming my inkling that Vancouver wasn't a great place for Winter Games. Letterman said they were going to move them to D.C. :D I've been thinking "huh?" since it was first announced. But they like to have a North American games every time or two out, people are down on the U.S., and we had it before Torino. Aren't there any mountains near Solman? He has snow.
Interesting about the hockey observation, plllog. I didn't think I liked hockey until I attended a match. There is so much more going on in the rink than just chasing the puck and they don't capture that on TV.
We did go curling once in Austria. It was outside in the cold and the stone was pretty beat up. They used the town square and orange cones to designate the sheet. Nice of them to include us and fun to have done it once.
The nearest real mountains to Solman would probably be Lake Placid or Mt. Tremblant near Montreal, both of which have had the Olympics recently.
Missy, almost forgot to mention the warranty on the Bosch was included with the purchase. We never buy the extended warranty. I just saw a consumer reporter on local news who concluded the extended warranty is almost never a good deal especially if the coverage depreciates over the life of the item.
Oooh, time to go. Let the games begin!
Sigh. We get it all on delay even though it's happening in our time and all they do is blather. Oh, for the days when they didn't have all this technology and just set up their cameras and showed it all happening instead of this ghastly "telling stories". I bet Canada has better coverage. Too bad we don't get it here. I was so disappointed when we finally got BBC America and I found out it was a sister to TLC, not the actual BBC. Sigh.
I think I must be very cranky today. At least I figured out where all the knobs go. Moss and Fern are too close in appearance, as are Sand and Pond. I mean, they're different, but not enough contrast to put next to each other. Whereas Turtle looks like it's from a different planet, and Cedar and Spruce are nice and contrasty.
Did you see the opening with the video of that snowboarder coming down from Heaven? Nice opening indeed.
Plllog don't feel bad. I, THE Canadian, am also watching the taped re-run like you. Just got in from yet another aborted sink buying mission. More later. But let's back to Vancouver and wait for the 'Games To Begin".
Tooodaloo for now.
Stef-Missy no details yet please us folk are still absorbing.
What a bummer about the death today of the Louge guy from Georgia. Talk about tarnishing the games already. I was almost in tears upon hearing. Imagine, youth dreaming of this moment your entire life and sadly not living to realize your dream.
And the thousands of protesters against the games. Very interesting indeed. And I will be sure to follow that.
OK back to the Tube. Or maybe that's a little dated now. How about back to the Plasma? (much better than LCD's and hence the new coined phrase)
Love the inclusion of our Native peoples! Finally. After all THEY are the real Canadians. But sadly in today's Canada they have been relegated to third class citizens and segregated to the most undesired lands of the deep North. Sad actually. Hopefully this isn't a pathetic PR stunt by the Gov't of Canada to make the world feel as though they are a lovely, welcomed part of our society. Life spans at half of the rest of Canada, triple the rate of infant mortality, rampant drug and alcohol and glue addiction, suicides etc. etc. Lack of medical care, education...
OK I'll let that slip and try to see them as good humor today and not "publicity props" for the world stage.
Native peoples all over the world get the short end from a society they didn't create that has all the wealth and power. Gotta say I love the Indian casinos here. I don't gamble, or go to them, but a lot of people do, and I think it's a great way for the Indians (as most of them say they prefer to be called) to use their reservations and sovereignty to screw the overlords in turn. The big problem is that the blood calculus (1/4 = one full blood grandparent, etc.), that the U.S. Gov't used to contain and control the tribes, and which was resented and reviled by the people, is now being used by the tribes to determine who gets a slice of the gambling wealth, and cut out people they called family back when everyone was poor.
But I like the term "First Nations". It may just be words, but they're respectful and unambiguous. "Native American" just doesn't cut it.
And I liked in Calgary when they couldn't decide how to sing the anthem (French or English first, etc.) so settled on Athabascan.
I totally love the Cape Breton punks, or whatever you call them!! Are those real tatoos? I was wondering what the pins sticking out of the sides of their shoes were before they lit them. :) I know a couple bands from that background but while they have a young edginess they don't have that street flair.
'Course I was really hoping for Lennie Gallant, but I suppose he's neither colorful enough nor world famous enough.
GREAT poet, great delivery.
All the 3D projection work is exquistite! Especially the water and the Rockies. And projecting on the people. Very impressive! People keep talking about how they can't meet Beijing, but although that was overwhelming and amazing and so full of people, but I like this better. It odesn't have the artistry of Albertville (my personal favorite), but this is the best focused narrative that I can remember at an opening ceremonies, and no froufy stuff just for froufy's sake, which is very refreshing! And it's modern and current, with the same warmth and intimacy as Lillehammer, but without the quaintness. EXCELLENT job Canada. I hope y'all get your gold medal(s).
Loved the snowboarder at the opening. It almost felt like Imax.
And the Rockies with the skiers, loved the kid running on the prairies too.
A great job, Canada.
It's so sad about the luger from Georgia. What a freaky thing to happen (I CAN'T BELIEVE CTV SHOWED IT - they should be severely reprimanded!!), and so sad for his family. I was impressed with the ceremonies - I think they were well done, except for the glitch at the end. The snowboard scene at the start was incredible.
I think I'm not very politically correct when it comes to the native population. I think that living on handouts their whole lives gives them no sense of pride, paying no taxes leaves them with no sense of responsibility or ownership in their land, and being so dependent on the gov't leaves them with no self-respect. It leaves them permanently in a parent-child relationship which is not natural. The goal of parenting is to raise your child to be strong, independent, and capable of surviving on his own, not to keep him perpetually dependent on you. It's a tricky issue, one that no doubt will not be solved for many years yet. I know they were treated horribly in the past, but the past is the past, and some day a person has to move on in order to have any kind of future. What works for the individual should in theory work for a people.
Actually - maybe I'm not so out of whack - just found the article below which is very interesting. I also heard a native author interviewed on our local TV station about a month ago - he had some pretty radical ideas on the subject, too.
Boy we've come a long way from a colourful Mexican kitchen, eh?
Here is a link that might be useful: Aboriginal Voices from Ground Zero
Canada succeeded in impressing on the International Stage. Nice indeed.
Plllog, looks like you REALLY liked it. Boy are you ever a fine connoisseur of Opening Ceremonies. How can you possibly remember them all? Do you tape them?
Mind you I could never forget Beijing. It will certainly be a benchmark. Prediction: Rio 2016 will be a real eye opener.
Missy- Thank God I didn't see the CTV tape of the Georgian's death.
Thanks for the First Nations link. Very nice work and proud of you. The writer has revealed a very interesting view into the plight of the people. I hope their model works. On that note, I believe the lack of integration into mainstream Canadian society is responsible for their feeling of alienation. I wonder if Athletics and Sport could be an answer to this. Building a strong Athletic program to breed competitive Athletes which could serve as role models for society. For example in America, young kids in under privileged areas like Harlem rise to become Professional athletes. That encourages others to work and also attain the same level of success.
I will never forget the Oka Crisis of 1990 when our Gov't had the nerve to send in the Army against our Native Peoples after they disputed a Golf course expansion!! It brought such negative International attention to Canada's Gov't. And rightly so.
When I'm in downtown TO and see our Native First Peoples lying on the ground, homeless, in Minus 20C, my heart truly bleeds for them. And as a Canadian, I feel responsible for their misery and wish that during my lifetime that they will see a better life. They deserve better.
Even Mexico has the same issue in the Zapatista movement; and how the Mexican gov't has treated the Indians of Chiapas. Sad.
But for now, we need the hoo rah rah for the Canadian team. Plllog, Missy was dead on about the curling as a sport. I have never met or seen anyone curling in my lifetime. But hockey and skating everywhere. I played road hockey my entire youth, skated etc. Yes all kinds of "Hockey Moms" taking kids to hockey etc. It really is Canadian and why we are unbeatable :) That being said, I see lots of Baseball here too. I wish soccer exploded more in Canada since that is the true international sport.
I laugh when I hear "World Champions" after a Super Bowl.
It is so sad about the accident and awful that they showed it on TV. If they aired it here, I have not seen it.
We have similar issues here with Native Americans. Alcoholism and crime are serious problems. The question always is whether or not to maintain their identity and customs and keep them on the reservation. The Casinos have brought some prosperity, but also an increase in the problems. Our government gives Native Americans special status for contracts that then become an avenue for corruption.
The benefits do help in some cases. We have a friend who used his status to graduate from a prestigious private university and law school. He now works on some of those cases plllog was referring to. The feuds that have erupted over the casino profits.
Yep, this doesn't have a lot to do with kitchens.
Got my cowboy boots on and we're off to attend a family gathering. See you next week.
Happy Valentine's day!
Plllog- Steff's right Tremblant is the closest serious place.
This is the closest decent hill. About 3 hours North of me.
Steff- Happy Valentine's Day to you and enjoy the weekend. Remember to root for CANADA! LOL. (we need it otherwise the Euro's will swallow all the meadals)
Here is a link that might be useful: Closest Mountain
Happy Valentine's Day, Steff! Have fun with your family, and do some boot stompin for me. :o)
Have you heard of the Calgary Stampede? I bet you'd have fun if you ever dropped by. ;o)
Here is a link that might be useful: Calgary Stampede
ROTFL!! Solman, it's art. One remembers. Now if you asked me for a play by play of the hockey... All I remember is one year--Slat Lake?--when the best game ever was a semi-final played by ... Sweden and the Czech Republic? It was basically a duel between the two best goalies in the NHL. I can't describe what happened, and my only visual memory is of the Swedish uniforms. And see? I can't even remember the countries, let alone the names of the goalies. No...maybe I do. Jagger and Hacek? Is that right? 'Course one of the reasons it may have been such a good game on TV might have been because it was a goalie duel, so the good stuff (as Steff pointed out) made it to the screen.
I grew up with pitchers' duels in baseball during a low hitting era, and still think of a tensely fought game with a 2-1 score as a more exciting ballgame than some 14-13 blow out. 'Guess that makes me un-American.
Missy, thanks for the reading material. I hope they allow it to go forward. I have a big issue with paternalism, whether in (U.S.) tribal relations, foreign policy, affirmative action or anything really that tells people that they are less than. Good for that group for trying to be self sufficient and self governing.
The showed the accident on TV here too. I didn't watch. I guess there's some value in showing what went wrong, but they could do that with illustrations of his path and the track rather than exploiting the trajedy for shock value. Reminds me of Dire Straits' song: "Is the head dead yet?"
Steff, have a great time!
Okay, I'm still cranky. Got wakened by the house alarm again even with "do not open door" signs. But the good news is that the DW is now out of the doorway, and this evening I can actually get into the kitchen and lock the danged door!!!
Plllog-Well done it was Domenic Hacek indeed. I also think he's the best there ever was in net.
Art. Oh yes, now I see why your ears and eyes were twitching all these times. I guess it makes sense. I'm a Tennis fanatic and remember actual points of all the classic matches in history. So level of interest is a big point.
Speaking of big...
Something real Big!!!!!!
is happening. And it's not in Vancouver. It's..
You see! I have a bad memory for games. For me, once they're done they're done. Sweden vs. Czech semi-final was in Torino with Haek and JÃ¡gr (can't spell Czech either). But I think the goalies duel was Canada vs. Czech in Nagano, and was HaÂek vs. Roy. That wasn't that good a game but I do seem to remember that nobody could score. The good game was the Sweden vs. Czech game.
Strange but the room feels HUGE!
P.S. Notice the crown moulding ripped off the ceiling too. Also the backsplash suddenly feels more open.
Whoohoo!!! Congrats on the progress. Glad it feels huge!
No, Thank YOU.
No more 'creepy corners'. Even Carpenter liked it much better.
Backsplash Double Barrel Confusion
In this design, the wall to left of window would have 2 Guadalajara ;) groupings and one??grouping to the right of the window?
Same thing on the cooking elevation. 2 groupings of 4 on the right of the Mural and one?? grouping on the left side. I ask since those are obviously smaller wall sections.
The other point of confusion was on the cooking elevation to the right of the cooktop where there is the boxed in pipes. That affects spacing since the box sticks out. Does the box mean that Double Barreled is not ideal?
Can't you just tile over the pipe box? Is the box in the middle of the double barrel shot? If not, it'll be fine in yellow.
So what you're saying is that there are three clay pigeons on each wall, but only four Guadalajaras worth?
Easy. Guadalajara on both outside edges, and accent tiles for the remaining quad. Do you have 8 of the other samples? It doesn't matter if they all match each other.
Or you could mix it up, since you'll need 8 other deco tiles anyway, and do the two outside ones with 2 G's and two others each, and the inside all G's. Or get an extra four mixed deco tiles (if you don't have them) and do them all mixed.
Or you could get another four deco tiles and do every other one on the double barrel:
GG stove DD GG corner DD GG sink DD
GG stove DD GG corner DD GG sink DD
Whatever you do, if buying a few deco tiles allows you to not buy more yellows or Guadalajaras it'll solve the matching problem.
So...what happened to the sink? I thought you already ordered it. :(
Holy computer calcurama, you say that so naturally Plllog that you lose me.
Well I can answer one question at least. Yes the pipes will be boxed which will be tiled. When the true doubled barreling is done (2 x Groupings of 4) on that box wall the inset tiles would be pushed against the box. But that's with a space of 2 yellows between the Double Barrel. The space could be reduced to 1 yellow separating, but may lose the double barrel effect.
BTW I'm still open to the Lace Mantilla if you all think it's really more beautiful. I'm stuck since I just like them all :(
The sink-Last time at Lowe's they didn't know how to to the order. Last night same. It's this tile in/undermount that's confusing the computer. We don't know if it's the same sink or a different one. Only Kohler can likely answer this.
Size opinion- The targeted one was Bakersfield single bowl with deck 21x 30 inch. My prep area #2 to left of sink is 24 inches. That is up to the L where you turn the corner.
1. Is that a good/sufficient size prep area? Or considering that since it is only 1 of the 2 prep areas (the other being right of cooktop), it's OK. Note: I think logically most of my prep will be on the Mural elevation to the right of the cooktop. Chopping, mixing etc.
2. If not, should we move down in sink size to 18 x 24 inch. With undermount lips the actual usable bowl would be 15x 21 BUT only comes with NO mounting deck. Visually would a smaller sink look bad?
3. Because of my drop in front of the window, I believe we said the recessed beneath quarter round and deck mounted faucet and or sink with a mounting deck is more favorable to keeping water off the main counter level and hence away from the feared window.
Speaking of which...Plllog let's get that camera clicking or has your tile setter not reached that stage?
You'll never believe it. I was scanning through some Mexico shots and found this from a place I was in. Look at the tile pattern!
Plllog, have you copied The Lace Mantilla from this Restaurant on Paseo Montejo in Merida? C'mon tell the truth.
By the way, possibly one of the most beautiful boulevards in the world. Serious Spanish mansions along the entire road. Luckily today they are stunning cafes and open air Restaurants. Ah the grass looks so Green when you're breathing Minus 10 and GREY. Plllog, did you get that sun and heatwave that you were expecting? Does that mean beach day in LA tomorrow?
I'm sure this is what your's will look like.
Silly Solman!! "Bottle of Wine" is by Tom Paxton, checkerboards are traditional.
Mine what? Sink? Not on your life!
I got my sinks at the local designer plumbing supply (best prices in town, plus best showroom). They know how to order stuff. If you don't have anything like that in your stalking area, maybe you should call Kohler directly?
A large sink is useful, but I don't think you need it. I do think you need the deck for the reasons you state. I grew up cooking for 30-50 people with 24" front, 30" deep, next to the sink. And no other prep space at all. You can also put your board across the sink and expand your space. And Carpenter can make you a couple of half-sink-wide cutting boards that sit on the sink rim and are flush with the counter top, if you want.
Re pix, the counters have been covered with pads because of the cabinet guys. Plumber Tuesday.
Not quite beach weather, but not-cold. Warm is supposed to be coming. Sun is here. Beloved sun. (Poor Missy!! Poor Solman!! It's remarkable that Canadians are so nice that the prime minister has to exhort them to root for their countrymen while they're being so nice and welcoming considering that y'all have no sun!)
So, what are the exact measurements of the backsplash walls?
I still can't believe the Opening of the Ceremony last night and the guy snowboarding. Did you see the CLIFFS he jumped?? Not for the faint hearted, I'll say. And as stef said the iMAX like synching where he jumps out of the screen and into the stadium.
Come to think of it, that does rival Beijing. But yes a shame of the 4th torch arm not opening :( Surprising considering Canada makes the retracting arms for the Space Shuttles for NASA!
I think I heard that it was the door that didn't open. There's a long, tradition of mechanical cauldron lightings going somewhat awry. I loved the archers in Albertville. Low tech, high skill. (Did I tell you it was my favorite?)
I used to know a couple of guys whose deal was helicopter skiing. Gave me the willies. But what you saw is the kind of thing they'd be doing. Pristine snow. Dropped in by bird. REALLY dangerous cliffs and crevasses. But they do plan their routes not to get dead so it looks a lot worse than it really is. If you're into throwing yourself down a vertical mountain with a board strapped to your feet. The boarder's control and ability to carve such beautiful, even S's was truly impressive. Do you know who it was?
Valentines Day and I'm being asked for my measurements ;;;BLUSH Actually quite apropos LOL! You'll be pleased to know that Carpenter wanted MY advice on what to get for his new wifey. And that he got and raced to the shop before closing to get 'it". Talk about feeling pressured by the day. Poor soul and he just got married.
OK we'll start with the waist, I mean window elevation:
Right of window-35 "
Left of Window- 43.5"
Right of Mural-50 "
Left of Mural- 26"
Happy Valentines Day everyone!
Shame I have no idea of Albertville or these Archers. Sorry. But sounds good. Archers are always impressive in the Knights in Armor movies.
No idea who that snowboard guy in the opening was. He's got to be a competitive Snow Boarder. Yeah I think I'd rather be a skier with 2 leg mobility than a single boarder doing cliffs like that.
I truly saw the heroic bravery in what he accomplished. My one and only time on a downhill ski hill was when a friend took me to Upstate New York to learn. After we did the simple run, he took me to the advanced slope and it "looked" like a straight drop and I just GASPED and turned around. No way. And compared to the BC cliffs in the ceremony last night, it was child's play. Just imagine the fright of looking straight down when he started at the very top yesterday. How did he get THERE? Helicopter drop?
Speaking of danger, 2 guys from Grimsby, a town just 20 minutes from me died on Wednesday in BC, falling off a cliff.
Canada's most charismatic Prime Minister ever, Pierre Elliot Trudeau, lost a son to cliff skiing in Whistler about 10 years ago.. His remains and body have never been found to this day.
So yes, these guys are living on the edge. Literally.
Aha, here's the goods on the guy.
Sigh. Lack of sleep. When I was posting that message I was thinking the archers were in Spain but I thought no, the Olympics were in France, but I was right the first time: It was Barcelona. I haven't been remembering anything well. Good news for my mixed up state is that the kitchen door is now locked. WHOOHOO!!!!!!
It makes sense about the composite footage. Thanks for finding the article. Boarding is actually a lot safer and easier than skiing, besides being cool. Of course it was a helicopter drop! How do you think they got all that 360° footage? Besides, I already told you so. **okay, I'll stop being mean. Helicopter skiing/boarding is like tow in surfing. For adrenaline junkies with more money than fear. The difference between us and champion downhillers is we look down and say, "Are you kidding?" whereas they look down and say, "COOL!" I also know guys who surf Mavericks near Santa Cruz, which is sliding down a 50 foot wall of water while standing on a slick ironing board. But most big wave surfers do have the sense to be scared silly--they just don't have the sense not to do it. Must be all the salt between the ears.
It's very sad about the deaths you've mentioned, but I wonder what the relative percentage of skiiers/boarders who go off cliffs compared to the percentage of rock climbers who are killed at similar challenge levels. Maybe there are just a lot more extreme rock climbers, but it seems to me that a larger percentage lose their lives. There are lots of out there sports. The shock in Vancouver is that luge, for all that it looks ridiculous, isn't all that dangerous in the man-made, refrigerated tracks. With proper barriers it didn't have to happen. And that's a real tragedy. They said today that it's an excellent course but designed for the elite, rather than the world. I don't know. I think the same thing could have happened to one of the top guys.
By the way, Johnny Lyall only flew through the rings. The actual cliff boarding was done by 3 different elite guys and pieced together to look like the final guy that entered the stadium. Hey, that's cheating. Hollywood stuntman trickery gone North. Oh well, looks good.
Yayyyy. We got our first medal--even if it was just a Silver. We were expecting Gold. Look at your USA guys. Tops in the medal counts. Well done.
Must be all that good Tortilla Soup in the deep South :)
Speaking of which, I was in the US of A last night and YES Chipotle was PACKED as in lined up right to the front door! What a $$$ Goldmine. Missy if they ever make it to Calgary, you've got to try this place. It's THAT good. Fresh, nutritious, tasty, natural food.
Umm. The Canadian hockey team crushed their opponent 18-0! That's like a basketball score.
I agree, the luge course design is flawed. I saw the other (forgot the country) guy also fall off and then luckily recover back to his sled and make the finish.
I saw the massive rebuilding of the corner where the guy flew off and died. They've also start at a much lower height now due to lack of confidence in the course.
I was pleased to see the solidarity of the Georgian team and withdrawing from the Games. Respect for human life is so admirable.
Who were they playing??? Gambia???? That's not like a basketball score either. It's the Saints against the worst team in the league. It's a travesty! Does the build up of goals count for something in tournament scoring? That's the only excuse I can think of. Baseball has a mercy rule. They stop the game after the fifth or seventh inning if it's a blowout. And in the pros they sub in their never-get-to-players during garbage time. What ever happened to running out the clock? It's like when all those NBA superstars went to Barcelona and pretended to be the Harlem Globetrotters against the stooges, uh, Generals. With all the opponents standing around star struck wanting to ask for autographs. It's not sport! Or sportsmanlike.
Sorry. Ranting. Gotta get that under control...
I was rooting for Jenn. It would have been so nice for Canada to win that first day gold. But it was obvious that Hannah had better runs. There usually isn't that big a difference.
I love winter sports on TV!!! They're beautiful to watch and on TV one can be as warm and dry as one wants. I like Rock and Roll on the radio too. I can't take loud, but I like the music at a level that I choose.
Re the luge, are you talking about last night's run? Because that kind of thing, fallling out of the line and the finishing the course isn't unusual. Neither are crashes. That's why they wear helmets. But the bad luge injuries are things like twisted joints, or even cuts from the runners. I've even seen guys crash out of the track before. Which isn't such a big deal if they land in cushioned fencing like they have in skiing or in snow. Any time you're sliding down a mountain and speeds exceeding 60 mph you can break your back or your neck, but it shouldn't be from crashing into "an unpadded steel pole".
Did the Georgian team withdraw? I thought it was just the other luger. I totally believe in respect for human life, but I'm not sure withdrawing is it. I get withdrawing because they're in mourning and otherwise upset. Respect for human life would be going into this thinking this is a very fast technical track and padding the heck out of everything because crashes were inevitable.
Happy New Year!!!! everyone.
Gung hei fat choi
Congratulations, Canada! Now you can stop talking about that gold medal ;) Alexandre (I go casual because I can't spell any of these names) did a phenomenal job!
Solman, did you go dragon dancing? Exchange bums? Or just throw snowballs?
Yes! Happy New Year Everybody! We went to the celebration in NYC Chinatown today. Had a blast, got covered in confetti, danced a bit, ate lots of dim sum and took over 300 photos. Here's just a few.
Wooooo congrats on the corner cupboard, Solman!! It looks wonderful. :o) If chipotle ever makes it's way out here, I'll be sure to check it out.
Happy New Year!!
Thanks for the pics, Marthavila! (I think there's an update post for you near the end of the last thread).
Plllog just (((hugs))) for being you. You are an amazing person.
Happy Valentines Day all!
I got my new window today .... It is GORGEOUS!!! I will post some pics in my 'smaller homes' thread tomorrow. We're going to look at an alternate sink from kijiji tomorrow (wish me luck - I REALLY like it!)
Sweet dreams, all.
Oh, Missy, can't wait for the pics!!! Congratulations! And thanks for the hugs. :) Back at ya!
Marthavila, thanks so much for the photos!!!! That looks like so much fun!!
Speaking of big waves, there was a contest at Half Moon (I think it was) and the waves took out the spectators!
At least it's warm here. Finally. Won't last, but it's a relief...
Off... deep breath in--00 deep breath out.
Just peeking in quick here before we head out ..
I posted a couple pics of the new window in the smaller homes thread if you are interested. :o)
So, how's the view?
BTW, here's the video from Half Moon. I only recommend the first bit where they show the first wave. But there's also a great, edited video from a last year that shows what surfing Mavericks is all about.
Oh my GOSH (whoever he is). Look what I've missed!
Just got in after really being on the run for 2 days. Plllog you're my official Vancouver 2010 news syndicate. I didn't even know we got our first Gold. Thank you. Surprising the car radio didn't have that splashed all over.
Marthavila oh was that a nice treat for us in the spirit of Gung hei fat choi. Such nice street shots and you know how much I enjoy those. I'm really happy that you felt the spirit and had the chance to join in. I was in TO on Sunday night and surprised that they didn't have such festival with the massive Chinese population that we have. I say that with reservation as there likely was such but not that I was aware of.
And Missy. I mean Missy I'm so happy about your beautiful window. Did I say BIG? Whoooah that thing is Greenhouse material! If we can only get that going on the other 3 sides of the kitchen we're talking Hydroponics and fresh veggies from your own kitchen, literally :) And I thought Plllog had a biggie.
And speaking of biggies, love the surfing Mavericks. Nice dig Plllog. That/they are so cool. Did I mention I think Surfers are the very definition of ultra cool. Courage, beauty, balance, timing, attitude, it's the real deal. I saw the wash up on the Canadian news and will never forget the look on some of the photographers faces who were on their backs with their high priced equipment in the water. Ouch, I felt that pain even here.
So, after actually getting up at an insane hour and driving to do my long Kriya,
something very nice to share from it. Being a big New Year's Day Guru G's wisdom was:
A poor man celebrates New Year's once a year.
A rich man celebrates New Year's every day.
Instead of over done chocolates and roses I decided that I would turn down the lights and just sing a little song for Amy.
It goes something like this.
I thought you might enjoy this.
Oooh! M'sieur Slow Hand!!! I've wronged you Solman, I was expecting something different.
Your photographs remind me of something I wish I had been able to take a picture of. I was on a ferry down under sitting around like anyone else. Across the way was a man in his forties with a younger woman who looked a little unhappy with the motion or something, half laying on the seat with her head on his thigh. I had two thoughts: The first was "this is perfect love," due to the expression and carriage (not the position). The second was that she was too young for him (an ignominious thought from someone who comes from the land of arm candy and trophy wives). Because later a woman the man's age came to sit with them and I realized the young woman was their daughter and it all made sense. I don't know if there would have been any way to capture that feeling of perfect love. I don't know if I'm that good a photographer. And I only had my FE for shooting the reef, and doubt, even if I'd shot, it would have looked like more than a snapshot of folks on a ferry. But it's something I'll always remember.
I hope you all had a lovely Valentine's Day.
Lucky you. Oz huh. I'd love to put that on my dart-board.. soon. A combo trip to see the The Aussie Open in Melbourne and then off to beach with me Mates.
Capturing the perfect moment image can be magical. Missing it is painful.
"Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again."
Stef- Are you glued to the Plasma? Men's Curling's on and Canada is about to win over Germany. Yeaaah. America's really flying and you must be pleased indeed. I checked the Torino count and it was Germany and USA at the top.
I also checked the "Curling scene" here and was surprised that it is quite widespread. We have a club in this town of only 50,000 and so do the next 2 cities beside us. I just never really noticed it since I've never encountered a curler.
That could explain our Curling dominance. Or are we?
Now another report from the land of the Maple Leaf. Yesterday, while in Kitchener, Ontario I counted 4 outdoor rinks full of activity. One was in front of the City Hall, the others in community parks in open fields. It was really quite beautiful... to watch. Wanted to snap a couple shots for you but didn't have the camera:(
Well done Houdini,
How did you pull Amy's lullabye out of the hat. Hmmm. So, you know Amy huh.
Maybe next Valentine's I should sing this one to her. How's that for future planning?
Missy- How's the window party going? I can just imagine the euphoria you must be feeling. Have you had a sun blast day yet? That will be really interesting. Just thought of something, this massive window will be great for heat on a Sunny winter day. Say, what about some nice hummingbird feeders. Emphasis on some :)
Hi Hi, I am definitely still in window party mode :o) I love love love the new window!! lol
I have seen hummingbirds here before, but they are very few and far between. I put a feeder out after I saw the last one, but he never came back - I have a feeling he was a bit ticked off that there was no nectar to be found in my petunias.
Glad you found some curling rinks, Solman. I really think it is a much more 'small town' activity. Big cities have too many other activities to offer. Small towns are kind of limited in 'what to do' offerings.
Speaking of things that disappear (lovely story about the older man and girl, plllog), I found an old thread that I've had open on my laptop for several days as it seems to have 'poofed' on these forums. I tried to 'clip' it, but that didn't work either. If I close the window it will vanish forever. Can you see the link if I post it below?
Plllog, in that 'color' thread, you mentioned old fashioned linoleum (my rephrase)... I wanted to show you the lino I picked for our bath re-do a few years ago. It's another one of those things that were really 'in left field' (according to my husband) and I have not seen this kind of lino in anyone else's house. It still makes me happy every time I see it. I have a few things like that in my home, not many, but maybe I appreciate the few all the more because of it. :o)
The colours in the flowers are brighter than they appear in the pic.
Prairie-I really like it! How on earth do you find the pattern? I've never seen anything like it. Earth tones+Floral. Plllog I'd like to know if there was any overlap during your Red Poppy era.
Wait a second. Man likes floral floor? Brief questioning of masculinity. No, just admiration for nature.
Hi Solman, it was in an obscure book in our local store. Quite expensive as I recall, but because it's such a tiny room, my hunny gave in to my whim. :o) It has a texture, too, which is kind of neat. It almost feels like canvas.
I think it's safe to like floral. I like blue and trucks and don't worry about my femininity lol
Missy- Looks like Plllog's "glued to the tube". Pardon the pun :)
The Snow boarders are something. Just think, many questioned the addition of Snowboarding to the Winter Olympics and look at the amount of thrill that the sport provides. And imagine the Opening Ceremony opening spectacular that would have not been.
Missy- Just for fun, tomorrow I'll check out this Curling Club in town. I mean at least I can say I've been inside one. Wonder if they have public curling nights and could give it a shot. I used to Bowl and I see a lot of similarity. Stretching will be highly advisable I'm sure.
I wonder what a Californian would do after going inside the rink.
I wonder what a Californian would do after going inside the rink. Probably the same as you'll do. ;o)
It is similar to bowling, maybe moreso like shuffleboard as you're trying to knock your opponents off? My aunt and uncle had a big shuffleboard painted on the cement in their basement when I was a kid. We spent hours pushing our markers up and down that floor. lol Thanks for the memory - I haven't thought of that for years and years.
You should check out the rink 'just because'. :o)
Can you see the thread link I posted above? I am just wondering if it is saved in my computer's cache, or if it still exists in google. Thanks!
Houston, I mean Alberta, we have liftoff. The link works perfectly.
egggggsellent! Thanks for checking for me.
We have faucets!!!!!!
Lots of work of all kinds today.
Yesterday they were skating outdoors in the San Fernando Valley. It was 82° out there. Big waste of energy keeping the ice from melting but the people liked it.
Missy, thanks for the pic. Very cool lino!!!
Solman...huh? Overlap what?
Electronic rebellion here. Checking in via bitty mobile data platform.
Cherry blossoms in Vancouver?? They're calling it the glitsch olympics, which is such a shame. But cherry blossoms are pretty.
Holy progress Plllog! Lucky you.
You're moving like a rollercoaster from Disneyland.
Have you like got h2o flowing out the spout?
The overlap was that you were in your former Red Kitchen Poppy stage at the same time that Missy put in her funky floral Lino.
Yes, running water and my beloved washing machine too! There's a little one step forward two steps back going on. The cabinets have been in forever, but now they need adjusting and whatnot, and different hinges on these and nowhere to put anything away.
But it's nice out...
Just a few days off and there's so much to catch up on.
plllog has a washing machine now. No more laundry at mom's.
Solman - The revised corner looks good and it really does work better in your kitchen.
Missy - The window looks great, glad you had a clear day to get it done even if it wasn't warm. Opening up your house will also make a huge difference.
We went to my BIL's retirement party in Chappell Hill. An idyllic small town with a beautiful, historic main street. The party was in the firehouse. It was a scene right out of a CMT video. Cowboys and bikers, beauty queens and local pols all together. Lots of BBQ and live music, fiddles included. We totally missed Cotton Eyed Joe while talking to my nephew and his wife. They're a couple of greenies from Austin and just bought a new house in the far suburbs but compromised by not getting copper tubing for the icemaker in the new fridge. Ya gotta love it!
Hey, Steff!! [waving furiously] Welcome back. Sounds like a great party. I love Bryan Bowers's Cotton Eyed Joe. I think he's originally from NC, though he's WA now. Or was it the line dance y'all missed? Explain please about the ice maker?
So glad you had such a good time with your boots on!
Missed Cotton Eyed Joe entirely. We were in another room talking and didn't even hear it.
On the icemaker, the pex tubing is apparently considered greener than copper because of the demand for copper as a natural resource and lead in the solder joints. I could get into a discussion about the production of plastic not being green, but they are seriously into this stuff to the point of being caricatures so it's not worth it. To me it was more the contrast of the decision to buy a new house in the 'burbs and the small compromise on the tubing to be "green."
Solman, looks like Canada has a good shot at the Curling gold. We don't have a TV in Houston, but will get back into the competition tomorrow.
Thanks for the explanation! I didn't know about the whole anti-copper movement. I have a problem with copper recyclers taking in obviously stolen stuff, but that's another story. :) But I bet the greenies are happier with their nice suburban deforrestabox than the True Path. Way back when I was in college and looking for off campus housing I thought a house with Sierra Clubbers who were environmentally conscious sounded just right--until I met them. They were making themselves miserable with every little thing they did to save infinitesimal amounts of resources. I understand going to bed early and getting up at dawn to conserve daylight. I don't understand sitting up late straining the eyes from a too dim lightbulb.
Did you see the UK team skip (or have you not seen any of it)? She's a young beauty! Not the same mom jeans, puffy hair types I'm so used to seeing. She did a great job on her last stone, today, too. My contractor saw the curling on today and he was astounded that this was an Olympic sport and that people actually spend their time playing it. But he doesn't play basketball either. He's a farm boy who's used to working for work then working for play, and staying up all night during lambing to make sure they're sucking. Maybe that's what makes him such a good contractor.
Solman: So glad you liked the photos. I thought you would, even though they couldn't hold a candle to those V-Day photos you linked. But what I'm really digging are the photos of your kitchen. It definitely looks and sounds like you are making kitchen progress for sure! Corner cab is looking very good. Woo hoo! BTW, please check your email inbox. :-( :-)
Missy: Well, just go ahead and add me to the fan club! Not only for the bathroom lino, but also for everything that is going on with your house. The way it's coming along is just terrific! Love the new window. and btw (this going way back but), did you ever resolve the island question with DH?
Steff : I'm like Pllog, waving furiously. I guess that's because even though I seem to be holding the record for disappearing into the ether for periods of a time, you are not so far behind me in that category. LOL! I must tell you that you did a great job on the Houston kitchen! You must be about to put it up on the market, no? Good luck!
Pllog What can I say. You, more than anyone, I get to "see" all the time over at the KF an AF corrals! LOL! But, still, it's worth it to lurk and occasionally drop in over here to get the real skinny as to what the heck is going on with your kitchen and your life. So glad to see that you dodged torrential downpours and mudslides to emerge into sun and running water! OMG, what's going to happen next? A completed knock-out kitchen and the kind of weather that inspires folk to start California Dreamin'? Here's some vibing for a double woo hoo on that! :-) (Oh, and the aside for you is -- what did you decide about the stemware cab glass?)
Sorry guy and gals that I can't join you all in deconstructing the Olympics. I almost hate to admit it, but when I've got the TV on, I tend to be captured by much more intriguing, physically demanding and adrenalin-rushing kind of fare like Season 6 of Lost, Season 20 of Survivor, and Season who knows what of The Amazing Race! LOL! (Seriously, though, if any of you are Lost fans . . . let's chat about that!)
Ok. Gotta go now. Just couldn't let there be another sunrise without saying a few "holas" to my pals of the UCMKF. That said, I do promise to check back in . . . sooner or later. :-)
Hasta luego y cheers!
B b bbbb but....I haven't seen this week's Lost yet. I was watching the skating, and it's too much TV! I'm so glad to see you pop up here though! On the glass, John found me some alternatives for a better price, so I can have the 1/8" masterpoint for an acceptable price after all. I think. The least expensive version means driving all over the place, but by this time next week I should have some free time. If I can't find a version that delivers. :) The glass shelves are going in them this weekend, though!
And did I mention...it's warm?!!!! It's getting cooler again, but with several days of making it up to 70° the house isn't cold any more. Except the soapstone. It was the best choice for the island, and is finally partially uncovered. All this time I was stressing over the tile and threatening to bag it and get soapstone, I kind of was in denial about the cold thing. I'm so glad the tile worked out. And I know I owe previews but they're covered with protective blankets.
LOL at the True Path. When I turn on the light, I want light. I'll conserve by turning out the light when I leave the room.
Still catching up here:
Marathavila - love the Chinatown pics. So glad you do check in from time to time.
Missy - That lino is terrific. I love the idea of doing something special in a small spot like that.
Plllog - Looking forward to the soapstone pics. I am still searching for an alternative to granite. When we went to look at soapstone they mostly had Minas in stock and DH was decidedly underwhelmed. Finnish soapstone looks like a better choice. Concrete is the perfect look, but not a good choice long term. I have seen vanity tops with the look of concrete, but the material is not available in countertops yet.
Have you seen this Texas kitchen? I was going with a dark green on my island, but this has me rethinking that decision. A bit of local color would be fun.
Steff, the link is missing its URL.
This is an old picture of my Finland Green Soapstone. I think you've seen it before, but just in case. Without the flash it doesn't look as mottled and it's darker and greener. It has an overall dark green look, with white and yellow quartz veining.
Thanks and oops, the link is attached below. I'm pretty sure I checked that link before and after posting. There are problems with the site today and it took me several tries to get in just now. Hope this works.
plllog, you did post that photo before and I do remember it now. That looks great. We don't seem to have a distributor here, but I'll keep working on it.
Hi all, I'll join the waving furiously section. Nice to see you Martha! :) BTW - I have looked and looked for pics of your kitchen to no avail. Can you please lemme know where to see them?
Welcome home, Steff! Sounds like you had a wonderful trip.
Congrats on the water/washing machine, plllog - they aren't kidding when they say water is one of the essentials of life.
I LOLed at the 'true path' and 'greenies'. I've never heard those terms before, but I definitely know some of those people hehehe
Your island soapstone is gorgeous, plllog.
Did Solman go walkabout?
We are heading out early tomorrow for a wedding this weekend. Hope you all have a good one, with lots of sun, not too much rain/snow, etc., and good progress on your respective projects. :o)
Hey Missy, I'm sorry. I know you asked this question before about my kitchen photos and I meant to answer it earlier. So here's the deal: there are no completed photos of my kitchen on the GW or elsewhere online. That's why you can't find them. LOL! Although I pretty much finished my kitchen last spring, there are still a few issues that remain to be resolved. For one thing, I've got a dw toekick problem going on with my sink wall. It is sticking out from the rest of the run and needs a carpenter's skill to fix it. For another, I've got a serious problem going on with an overlay panel on my base sink cab. (Very long story there about how the soapstone fabricator seriously damaged my farmhouse sink when he installed the countertop. So much so, that I demanded a sink replacement, to which he agreed. However, when it came to finding an exact replacement for a handmade Rohl Shaw's farmhouse sink that would match up perfectly with the scribing of the previous sink installation, I was out of luck. So, I had go back to Plain & Fancy, the custom cab manufacturer, and get them to make me an overlay panel which could be scribed to fit the new sink and cover over the prior sink cutout. However, now the new panel is a combo of maple veneer and mdf instead of solid maple. Which means that it expands and contracts, warps and bubbles depending on the climate. And, so I really want to replace it with a solid maple overlay panel -- which Plain & Fancy now says it can't make. (The reasons for this -- which go to the thickness of the overlay panel -- are an even longer story that truly makes me want to scream!) And, no, I can't go back to the GC for resolution of either of these issues since he and I had a rather unhappy parting of the ways after I gave him his final payment but before the punch list was fully completed. (I know. Don't ask!)
For another, I have yet to build my pantry which is in a closet in the hallway adjacent to the kitchen. (A project which I removed from the GC's contract but did not re-delegate to anyone else). Right now, I have things thrown in there in a way that works for me but just shouldn't be revealed to other human beings! And, for another, there's a very important piece of artwork that I want to hang in a very critical place that will give me just the right visual balance and creative statement that I want in that section of the room. But I have yet to buy this piece. And, guess what? It's not exactly cheap and -- here's the most important thing -- I've run out of money!!! So, until I build up reserves again, and then go out and spend more money in order to address these last few things, I'm just trying to hold off on declaring my kitchen as "finished."
Finally, another issue is that I want the right photos to show off my kitchen! Which means I need to get someone over here who has better skills with a camera than I do. Or maybe, just maybe, now that all is said and done, I'm also just hiding out from doing the big reveal. After months of teasing everybody with the same few shots of my red range and hood, a roar has developed around seeing the whole kitchen. How will I ever meet the expectations of the GW TKO crowd at this point? Shudder the thought!
Now aren't you sorry you asked? LOL! But since you did, and in order to cut to the chase: if you really want to see some sample photos of my kitchen, I'll be happy to share them with you off line, in an email. Just let me know. Otherwise, I'm hoping I may be able to resolve my structural problems, build my pantry, get my art, stage my kitchen and get someone with skills of shooting interiors to do so -- all by mid-summer. Or at least -- as I told Pllog, before the end of 2010. :-)
BTW, although I've shared several of my road bumbps with the Kitchen forum folk in the 3 years that my little kitchen reno has been going on, none of the TKO crowd has ever before heard the details of this closing tale of woe. So see what UCMKF membership can get you? LOL!
[Pouting]. MV, I want to see too!! I promise not to over anticipate.
You know, Missy, when you said the above about water that was exactly my feeling, but for the kitchen it was even more the drains! I have drains!! Can I tell you how much I appreciate everything my sewer taxes pay for, up to and including the drains!!!
Steff, thanks! I'd missed that kitchen. A lot depends on what you settle on for the counters, of course. I was originally planning a white and turquoise kitchen, though not nearly as bright as that island! Color is wonderful! Be sure you're really in love with the color--in specific, that particular shade--and you'll never get tired of it. Common earth tones are safe because people who aren't red-green colorblind just like them, but they're the opposite of exciting. Did you have a particular color in mind?
It's like the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul!
Forget the waving. -----Steffffffff - (said in a LOUD echoing holler from the top of Whistler's white capped slopes), you're BACK! And where Solman awaits, with a BIG jug of hot German Glutwein, the arrival of Plllog the Pacific Reptile, Missy- the ever fun pride of Alberta, Stef- the Princess of Mexico del Norte, and Marthavila- La Mujer en Roja.
Yes a lot is a happening/happened.
Stef- I had no idea you were going to such a big splash. When you said putting on the boots, I assumed some special Valentine's Dinner outing. Oh how I wish you had a small video clip of all the activity. It sounded amazing. Oh and I have to tell this story-true story. Last night I had a dream about YOU LOL! I was the real estate agent in Houston selling your house. When the young couple walked into the Kitchen, my sales pitch went right into the cabinets and I highlighted "notice the special angled corner cabinets for easy access and nice style". That's all I remember.
Plllog's soapstone photo is really beautiful. Aside from visual beauty, if I may add, it feels heavenly. I'm a touchy feely type (wonder how THAT would sound on a Dating Site self-profile) and I couldn't believe how smooth and warm it was when I first saw it.
I'm not sure about price difference from Granite but it is stunning. I wonder if we should have a group Petition titled Soapstone for Steff.
Plllog- is in the midst of a First Nations Victory Dance complete with Sunshine, drains, and the modern invention commonly referred to as The Washer. [[[[[[ A boom Boom Ba. Boom boom Ba ]]]]]]]]
Missy- Sounds like you're going to have real fun and wish you a very nice weekend at the Wedding. Do remember to share a funny story from it. Would love to hear.
Mathavila- Oh my gosh, what a story about the declaration of a "not" finished kitchen. And said, as usual, with such fine panache. LOL! Don't you love when you tell people that you're doing a Kitchen remodel and when they hear that you're not finished, their next sentence is "Well just get it done".
Now I may actually get to check my Inbox after a hectic week of nonsense.
Sink-I've been struggling with the sink (what an understatement LOL!). I'm actually dying to spend my money and can't! After careful consideration for my sink needs and prep area, I'm settled on a Tile In, cast iron single bowl 25x22 with faucet deck. This week found out from Kohler that very sink was discontinued last year :( Now they only have the drop in version. My last hope is a Kohler Broker who has access to discontinued Kohler models. He has sent a feeler to all Kohler dealers in America in the chance of finding unsold old stock. I really don't want a drop in sink. If this fails, my only choice becomes the Kohler Undermount Cast Iron without a faucet deck. My poor window...ledge :(
Backsplash-Funk # 2 :( Need serious artistic help in choosing from our finalists. I've redone the drawings and will post shortly.
Venting- Had the heating contractor here and he seemed not too positive in the options. As he said, people take care of the venting before they finish the bulkhead. I have it finished and this means a serious tear out of the ceiling. If the work is done, he's concerned about the corner against the outside wall. In that part of the bulkhead, the toilet pipes and stuff are in the corner. It's likely crowded in there and unlikely a 5 inch metal pipe could be accommodated. The other thing is that the ceiling was done 10 years ago and I have no idea what's up there. To know, you have to rip and cut into it. Then if there's no space for venting, you have to repair the bulkhead. Talk about complicated. Is it worth it?
And one last thing. Could you tell your American folk to stop hogging all the medals and save some for us Canucks:) Right Missy?
Plllog- I'm just looking at the picture of your Kitchen. It's so BRIGHT. Is that legal?
Can't be good for lighting sales.
Solman, I'm pretty sure the lights are on in that picture so there's a lot of light right on the stone. Plus it was high Summer.
Re the sink, if you're down to the undermount, why not ask Tile Setter if he can build you a faucet deck? I think it could be done.
Re venting, that's harder. We, of course, would like you to have a properly vented kitchen. Whether you can make it work, given all of the parameters only you can know. You might try asking for help in the Appliance Forum. I'm not sure how much of a gain 5" will get you, but they'll be able to explain the scientific particulars that make my head hurt.
Hi Solman good to see you're still around. First thing this am I heard the medal count and thought we would be in for a little razzing from you. Not sure how we do that since winter sports don't attract nearly the participation here that they do in Canada.
Not good news about the sink, but there are ways to work around it. On the vent, that's really not good to tear out a recently reworked ceiling. I will be back later to vote on backsplash.
How nice you dreamed about selling my kitchen. Our friends who have seen it really do think it will sell the house.
plllog, thanks. I love the idea of a brighter color island, but reality is that the view of the back yard is an important element. The copper apron sink and slate backsplash will be pretty strong visuals. The cabinets will be gray-green painted oak. Turquoise doesn't work, so I would have to look at something closer to verdigris instead of the green-black. Need to decide on the counters first.
Oooh! Steff, I love verdigris! That would be gorgeous!!!!
The turquoise I was thinking of early on for me kitchen was a different color too. It's all those wet copper colors that are so appealing! I went with a different version of it for my laundry room. My other fave is lapis lazuli, and I have that in my cobalt strips. Hmm.... I wonder if I was Persian in a past life. :D
Solman, you should be beside yourself with pride! Most Canadians live in the Southern cities, right? So it's not like they're all on mountains skiing to work. Canada has about the same population as California (and we do also have plenty of Winter sports). And two more medals than we do. And a significantly higher percentage by population than the U.S. See!!! Canada is doing great!
Stef-Considering Canada showed up with the second largest team in Vancouver, and given the type of country as in Arctic like LOL!, and our financial resources, we should be a powerhouse in at least the Winter Olympics. We haven't had a Downhill contender in Men's or Women's since Steve Podborski and Nancy Green!
On the sink, I found a guy on Craiglist that's selling the undermount 18x24 for $100 brand new in the box. Would you risk/buy from them?
Plllog-LOL! on the cross post. I just sent the crying post at the same time you're "save the tears" post was put up. Have you considered being a Psychic?
California Psychic offers sun healing remedies for all kitchen related ailments... and Nationalism shortcomings.
Oh you mean that 90% of Canada's population lives within 100 miles of the US Border? Yeah I guess it's not THAT Wintery and we're sort of like Californians without the:
2. Warmth (9 out of 12 months that is)
No wonder the Swiss win downhills, they have to ski to leave home.
Correction on the Craiglist sink seller. Nicest guy from Jersey called me. He even offered to send it FREE to Buffalo with one of his Sales Reps from his day job!
I've always contended that Americans are the masters of Customer Service. Even a private Joe like this is willing to do anything. Impressive.
Solman, is that the American Standard sink? Not as indestructible as the Kohler, though likely just fine, but the cobalt is a different color. Or does "other" mean that the particular one is the Kohler.
Did you find out why this guy has sinks? Is he a plumber with extras the customers didn't want? Or a small store? Or did these "fall off a truck?" (I.e., are they stolen?)
BTW, I meant you were like Californians, because most of the population has to go to the snow sports places, while a small portion live right there. (There's skiing within about an hour's drive of where I live, assuming no traffic, just like Vancouver.) Don't worry about the size of the team. Just because the host country gets to compete in every sport doesn't mean that they suddenly become contenders for medals in sports they wouldn't have been contending in anyway. Canada is doing just fine. Though there are still reports on the TV about how nice Canadians are. I know Missy said it was a stereotype that isn't reliably true, but to the rest of the world, Canadians are nice.
Canadians are definitely nice in my experience. There are always exceptions, but generally true.
We get a lot of good deals from Craigslist and have had very few problems. There are more and more folks making a living that way. Just make sure it's the color you can use since returns are not as easy.
While at Lowe's earlier today I browsed the latest BHG kitchen magazine and couldn't believe it. Right there in the middle of the featured kitchen was a bright blue green island. Not quite verdigris, but close enough. This was a white kitchen with a vaguely French look. So much more interesting than the standard green-black I was working with. Now all I have to do is look through as many paint chips as it takes to get it right.
Steff, why not go whole hog? You're DIY, right? You could use a verdigris finish. It's a little more trouble, but oh, so pretty!
Okay plllog, you are good at this psychic stuff. I was just looking up the technique for verdigris faux finish. Tons of info on it out there. Since it is DIY, I can paint over it or strip it off and start over. There are even some practice doors in the garage.
Oops! I got the sizes backwards on the window one.
That looks really good and very traditional. I had thought to leave one row of yellow around the mural, but that looks good and not too busy going right up to the mural.
The double barrel looks pretty good, too. The pattern doesn't work out evenly all around, but having the plain yellows on the ends means you don't have to cut the Guadalajaras.
Solman must be out with Amy again.
My vote is for the checkerboard. And, yes, the Guads look good going up directly to the mural. The double barrels look a tad too rigid -- especially adjacent to the mural, which is more "relaxed."
Problem is Solman doesn't have enough of the Guadalajara tiles.
So, Solly, how many of those things do you have?
I just got in and see that we're all doing a little late night peek-a-boo. )))))) Cute.
Feels like a Friday night girls pyjama party. (not that I would know about those)
Sorry Stef, Marthavila forgot to tell you that I had to dip out to the local Flower shop for our special one. It was also a little spirit lifter for her poor bushes that took a beating during the canal expansion.
According to Galileo's actual measurements by tile and grout taken from tiles currently on the counter.
On the window elevation, I've allowed for the width of the wood window frame@ 4 1/4 inches
Left of window-10 tiles
Right of window- 8 tiles
Right of Mural- 11 1/2
Left of Mural- 6 (that helps the elimination of the ugly sliver of the" Guad" (new coining of name copyrighted by Marthavila)
One more alternative design ccccoming right up.
Oh. I was going off of your measurements, but that's neither here nor there.
How many Guadalajara tiles do you have?
Like actual tiles in hand (box)?
The flowers are very pretty, Solman. Thank-you! But you didn't have to go out in the cold to fetch them!
BTW, did you know? It's going to rain here...
There was one other design that I'm not sure if we considered in my numerous mock up's. So I'll bring it to the table.
After seeing steps with the look with actual "Guads" I thought we should give it a second look anyways. Not to mention my "fav"famous Upscale Spanish Kitchen photo.
OK Artistas----- Shazam!
Gulp;;;; Yup that's right a 1/2 Guad in the corner.
Did somebody say we'd like this to scale and with the real McCoy for the oven?
Me!! Me!!! I did!!! I did!!!
Looks good, Solman. But I don't like the raised fruit basket. Do you need the extra 4"? Then cut the yellow tiles and do top and bottom. Or get some cobalts in the right shape. Cobalt would be better.
"BTW, did you know? It's going to rain here..."
Plllog you poor soul! OK we've got to get you out of here as soon as possible. And all the blowing grout is not
good for your new doo.
Actually, Stef can you please call Quantas and get Plllog booked on the next flight to Melbourne? I'll pick her up in Arrivals tomorrow morning; and do remind her to bring her Pink Havaianas. She'll need them!
Marthavila- long story but our Pacific Dolphin does not like the rain, believe me.
Oh no no, because you're worth it! If I can do it for Amy, then that's the least I can do for you. ;;;; BLUSH.
No. No method to the madness. I just added one Yellow tile on the bottom to lift the Mural off the counter because I thought you had to.
But, if it's visually wrong then by all means we can eliminate the bottom yellow row.
Plllog the drawings in your 21:39 post look really nice. A realistic visual for a mere rendition. I like your's better than mine.
Marthavila- I think you might have a good point. I hope that didn't count as a commitment. More like a Shakespearean aside :) I wonder what you think about the #3 Chain Design.
A whopping 19!
))))) Waving furiously from Melbourne
Looks like we saved Plllog. Great work on the bookings Stef, thanks. She's now singing to a whole new beat---Salsa.
Ahha the good old ancient remedy of Sunshine!
Solman, all my renderings are the same other than adjusting the number of tiles and the right/left booboo, just the first one is bigger. Oh, except the wrong double barrel posted on the last one! It was supposed to be by count. On these I took the tile images from a shop so they were already flat and cropped, and laid them with snap to grid. I can add grout lines if you want, but it's a bit of a pain on an imported image.
Maybe because you first 2 were bigger. But I like how the tiles look more 3D and curved. Actually your grout lines are more realistic since I actually won't have much grout showing.
We are having great weather here today, but it's going to rain tomorrow.
Only 19 deco tiles to work with? Both of the designs we are looking at use more than that.
Gloria is always great, have you seen this one?
Crossposted. That last one looks good, especially with the mural grounded.
"That looks really good and very traditional."
Stef- your comment just hit me. It was very interesting since earlier this week I showed an Artsy girl in the Yoga course our 3 designs to date and her comments were:
I like 1 (Lace Mantilla) and 3 (Chain) design.
2 design, (Double Barrel Brothers) if it is on floor then it's fine forget no 2
design 3 - looks so good
design 1- it has the real village look.
So both of you interpreted the Lace Mantilla as very traditional. Interesting.
Yes I'm fascinated by Marketing Research LOL!
Stef-The Conga Link didn't work!
Holy Psychic spooks. I just sent you the above and you cross posted at the same time. And I was about to ask you about this verdigris finish and what it is as I have no idea. I was going to go now and look for the issue of BHG to understand it.
So you like the Grounded Mural Huh?
Don't worry about the inventory of the "Guads" since I was going to have to order about 40 Yellows to be able to wrap around the wall at the ends of both elevations anyways. So the extras that we need in "Guads" would offset the Yellows? I think?
Off to the BM paint shop to try and match the Green from the corner of the Guadalajaras for my sponging "homework assignment" from my UCLA Professora :)
For you, Solman, bigger. Photobucket adjusts the size, so the pictures are a little off scale side by side rather than as one unit.
Re Guadalajaras: Mixing in new ones with 15 year old ones will be difficult. You could get all new. 19 more isn't too much expense, and might come anyway if you're buying by the box, or choose a style that conserves what you have.
From last Saturday: "Bottle of Wine" is by Tom Paxton [i.e., not "Traditional", though people in countries all over claim it as a folk song], checkerboards are traditional.
See! All these dream vacations you're sending me on have you forgetting the basics!!
Here's another try. I may need a training upgrade.
From Merriam-Webster: Verdigris is the green-blue poisonous pigment that forms on weathered copper. Literally means green of Greece.
The faux version was overused in the 80's, but is likely due for a comeback just like brass.
The magazine is Beautiful Kitchens. Look for the white-cream kitchen with the blue-green island. It's not exactly the verdigris color I had in mind, but more as a reference that the idea of how a bright color would look on the island in my kitchen.
The verdigris faux finish generally looks like this.
I double checked both these links and will post this.
Y'know, I actually like the double barrels with the mixed deco tiles.
OTOH, the advantage to doing a whole different backsplash is that that way you conserve the yellow tiles and don't have to mix them with a new lot.
I like the idea of alternating the reverse tiles rather than trying to match.
Solman, you don't even have enough Guads for the straight line! If you're not getting more decos all you can do is the broken line. Sigh.
Steff, I resemble that remark!! There's brass all over my new kitchen including the hood! (Hm... maybe I should pull out my '80's brass planters too...)
If you do the double barrels the mixed tiles would look intentional.
Just to get in another guy vote, DH likes the double barrels best.
A little something for you.
lol, Solman. Definitely have not seen that one, it's not a chart crossover for sure. I guess she's dressed for her Quinceanara or wedding. The mantilla does have relevance to our discussion, though.
The brass hood sounds awesome. Brass was never a problem, just the overuse of cheap plate that scratched and didn't wear well. Those 80's planters might be just the thing. My new faucet is Victorian Bronze finish. Not as dark as ORB and stainless just wouldn't have worked.
Wow! That video is something!! It makes me think more of first communion, with the candles and altar and the plea to the saints, though that pouf is full on quinceañera. That has to be one of the cheesiest videos ever!! Fun!
Steff, thanks for the polling. I think that's also what I like about the double barrel--it's very masculine.
Galileo 11 was just seen in his dormitory formulating tile quantities and breathing heavily... correction deeply.
Glad everyone enjoyed the video. Could that have been a little primer for the next trip ... ?
Okay, time to tease Solman. Missy, avert your eyes.
What a difference eight years makes. The entire world went into a frenzy over the cool of Team Canada's Roots hats at Salt Lake. The next go round the U.S. team wore Canadian hats because they were so cool. So what are the Canadians wearing now? Dorky knit hats that look like Aussie bathing caps!!! What's with that?
I promised MV a preview. I don't know that it looks all that different in the photo than before the grout. There's still some haze because of the kind of tile. Anyway, I'm making good on my promise so here it is:
Wow, that looks so good! Very unique and special. Love those round tiles and the knobs and, well, all of it really. The grout does make some difference from the previous photo. We saw it here first! Thanks, plllog.
The entire world went into a frenzy over the cool of Team Canada's Roots hats at Salt Lake. So what are the Canadians wearing now? Dorky knit hats that look like Aussie bathing caps!!!
Pllog: Only an artist could create something like that! Fantastico!!! I mean, I'm really, really digging it. The whole interplay between the window surround, countertop and backsplash is off the hook. I simply cannot wait to see what else you have up your sleeve!
Everyone: On Solman's backsplash, I gotta say that I'm feeling reminded of the faucet discussion. Granted - Octopussy was kind of out there. LOL! But I was so not feeling the winner. (Sorry, Solman. How you feel about your faucet is the only thing that truly counts here). But now, I'm feeling a repeat of being a lonely voice at the polls when it comes to the grounded fruit basket surrounded by double barrels! I'd much rather see the basket lifted and Lace Mantilla pattern (or at least that's what I think I like -- kinda guessing on the names here). Yeah. Not to worry. I get it -- the double barrel is a man thing. Well, even so, I just had to share my 2 cents. That done, I'm going back to lurkerdom and the start of The Amazing Race!
Based on the geometric calculations with the Earth at a 42 degree axis, and 46.6 % exposure to the sun and within 284 days of a Lunar Eclipse, the calculation is as follows:
Yellow Inventory 10 year old 1st Dye Lot = 243 Yellow
Yellow inventory This year -2nd Dye lot= 30 Yellow
Total Yellow inventory = 273 Yellow
Total Yellow tiles needed for countertop = 181 Yellow
Yellow available for backsplash and sides = 92 Yellow
Guads inventory = 19 Guads
Total splash including sides (24) required= 166 tiles (combination of)
Option Double Barrel Brothers
Total Yellow = 90+24 wall wraparound=114
Total "Guads" = 52
Option Lace Mantilla (must be a girl that came up with that name)
Yellow= 89+24 wall wraparound=113
Yellow=107 +24 wraparound=131
Die Lot Variation (bottom 2 tiles) Left 10 year old stock Right new Qty. in stock.
Looked at their Blue Plastic, sorry "Americast" sink and it was horrible. Bad quality and strange Blue. Not surprisingly, the Cast Iron look alike is now discontinued line.
Plllog- Regarding the Guads. Those are new. 10 years ago I did not buy any Guads. The idea was all Yellow Splash and all Yellow countertop.
It is moi that complicated things with the introduction of Cobalt edge tiles and the Guads. All for the better, I think.