Trane, RUUD, Lennox, Kenmore: how do you make a decision?

ofrancoisJanuary 27, 2013

I live in a flat roof row-house in DC with flex ducts in a crawl space; and I now need to replace the package unit on my roof that heats and cools only the 2nd floor (approx 800 sq'); my current system has a cracked hear exchanger. We've been visited by nationals and local independents but no one has recommended the same machine. What direction would you recommend:

RUUD RRRL-C-024 (16 SEER residential, limited Lifetime HX)
Lennox 15GCSX-024 (15 SEER res, 20 yr HX)
Rheem RRPL (14 SEER)
Rheem RQPM (14 SEER)
Trane 4VCC3024BIO64A
Trane XL14C (14 SEER, 20ys HX)
Goodman GPG (15 SEER, 20 yr HX)
Kenmore (14 SEER)
Carrier (14 SEER)

We are leaning towards the Trane XL14C (14 SEER, 20ys HX), simply understanding the value of a long warranty on a heat exchange and a stainless steel HE. Any other thoughts on any of these machines would be greatly appreciated. -O.

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tigerdunes

Ofrancois

I assume you are speaking of a gas/electric package system.

What size is existing-both AC and furnace((BTUs and efficiency please)?

Not a fan of Goodman products period. Have no idea what HVAC company holds the Kenmore contract but would not buy HVAC or a hammer from Sears.

What are the price differences between Trane, Rudd, Rheem models.

The Trane is a very nice unit-will require a true two stage thermostat for best operation. Same unit is available from AmStandard, sister company, and sometimes at a better price.

FYI Rudd and Rheem are same as they are sister companies.

You do want ST ST heat exchanger.

No model number provided for the Carrier.

IMO

    Bookmark   January 27, 2013 at 11:44AM
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hvacajun

Trane or Rheem, Trane is the best and costly. But, you get what you pay for. Rheem is my #2 brand that I call my builder grade. Compared to Trane's design and standards, Rheem is builder grade, but still quality. Look at the price and decide. But, if this is home for a long time, Trane!!

    Bookmark   January 27, 2013 at 9:13PM
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mike_home

Are you saying all Rheem furnace models are builder's grade quality?

    Bookmark   January 28, 2013 at 8:08AM
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tigerdunes

I would disagree with the blanket statement that Rheem is builder grade quality. I realize poster just refers Rheem to this adjective as compared to his "best brand", Trane. It is not a brand as well recognized as Trane mainly because they don't have the advertising budget. Not always cutting edge and with all the fells and whistle either. But overall solid HVAC with good quality. I have said many times that Rudd/Rheem are one of the most underrated and overlooked brands in the residential HVAC marketplace.

IMO

    Bookmark   January 28, 2013 at 8:30AM
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ofrancois

tigerdunes, the existing system is 70btu, 10SEER, and 2 Tons.

Also- Sears did not give us any model numbers for the Kenmore or the Carrier they offered. -O.

    Bookmark   January 28, 2013 at 11:16AM
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mike_home

Stay away from Sears. You will pay a higher price and likely to get a poor installation.

A quote is not complete unless the complete model numbers of all the components are specified. Don't work with any contractor who refuses to provide this information.

    Bookmark   January 28, 2013 at 11:39AM
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tigerdunes

Francois

I would look at the two ton units quoted by Trane and Rudd/Rheem. Pay attention to the heating BTUs of each unit as well as features, warranty, ST ST heat exchanger, dealer reputation, and of course cost.

I like the two stage heating and of course believe your existing unit is oversized on the heating side. And to be clear, you will need a good two stage thermostat to handle the heat stages for full functionality.

IMO
Good Luck

    Bookmark   January 28, 2013 at 11:39AM
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countryboymo

EVERY company has 'builder grade' products. There are trane models that have crummy numbers and no features. The only statement that makes sense is 'you get what you pay for' With some brands you get more for your $$ than other.

    Bookmark   February 2, 2013 at 7:09PM
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