Pirelli Webbing vs. Spring Suspension in Sofa

zink88February 24, 2007

We are looking to purchase a reclining leather sofa & chair set and are currently comparing furniture made by Omnia Leather and Leather Italia USA. The Omnia Leather furniture has a tempered steel spring suspension while the Leather Italia furniture has "Super Strength Pirelli Webbing" with double lacing that it claims Mercedes and Porsche use the same type of seating.

Any thoughts on which is the better suspension system that will hold up over time?

The two sofas we are comparing are the Omnia "Catera" and Leather Italia USA "Baker". Here are links to both:

http://www.csnleather.com/asp/show_detail.asp?sku=OTL1244&refid=FR20-OTL1244

http://www.greatpricedfurniture.com/products/12536.html

We definately want leather, reclining, and high backed sofa. Any advice on these two or others greatly appreciated.

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mogator88

Mercedes and Porsche have a V-8 engine, just like my dad's Ford. Must be the same thing, right?

Neither sofa system is better. There is no suspension system that is "better", IMO, because it more depends on how its made. A Pirelli system done well, with the appropriate cushion filling, will last and hold up very well. But it can be done cheaply too.

Even an 8-way system done sloppy will just fall apart. I saw this once on a very expensive Drexel leather sofa. We used to sell Emerson leather, at the time a very respected "8-way" brand. The same model would sit completely different each time we ordered it. They got sloppy at the end.

Personally, I don't much care for Pirelli, but I've not had problems with the ones we've sold. I strongly recommend that you don't allow kids to jump on a Pirelli sofa, more so than other kinds.

If you want to know which is the "better" sofa, I'd vote for the Omnia.

We definately want leather, reclining, and high backed sofa. Any advice on these two or others greatly appreciated.

This category is dominated by junk. I've not sold Omnia, but it has a good rep. I like Jaymar, real quality there. Good Luck!

    Bookmark   February 26, 2007 at 12:23PM
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zink88

OK, so if we go with the Omnia sofa, the next question is whether to get the 2.0 or 3.0 density cushions. Since there is a pillow top on the cushion, I was leaning towards the 3.0 figuring the pillow top would counteract some of the firmness of the higher density cushion and that the higher density would hold up better as the sofa aged.

Problem is, the closest dealer is 90 miles away and they don't have a 3.0 pillowtop cushion on their showroom floor.

The store manager recommends the 3.0 for motion sofas (which he will order at the same cost as the 2.0).

Recommendations?

    Bookmark   February 27, 2007 at 1:07AM
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rmanbike

When designing motion furniture, manufacturers are somewhat limited on their spring choices. Meaning you dont have much room to work with so these 2 methods are commonly used. I would suggest Pirelli webbing (2-way) over spring suspension, or also know as Flexolator. If designed correctly; sinous wire will give you a much better comfort(ride). But few manufacturers are willing to make their seat frames strong enough to use sinous wire.
The density of the foam in the seat cushions refers to the actual weight of the foam and not how soft or firm it is. The higher the density usually means a longer lasting cushion. But a low density HR foam will outlast a high density polyurethane foam. Some manufacturers have been know in the past to load their foam just to say they are using a high density foam.

    Bookmark   February 27, 2007 at 11:56AM
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mogator88

I can't advise you on the cushions, like you've heard there are other factors involved. Anyways, an upholsterer can easily replace the cores when they wear out.

Omnia I believe can properly make a sinuous coil unit.

    Bookmark   February 28, 2007 at 12:26AM
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happyfushia364

I was just introduced to Pirelli webbing at Raymour and Flanagan yesterday. Was looking at Natuzzi leather sofas. I understood the salesman to say that Pirelli webbing was the suspension system; no springs. He turned the loveseat over and showed me the webbing and never mentioned springs at all. Just kept talking about how great the webbing is.
So, what's the scoop on sofas utilizing the webbing?

    Bookmark   March 12, 2009 at 6:05PM
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