questions about American Range Performer/other gas ranges

Fori is not pleasedNovember 15, 2013

Howdy!

I've never had a gas oven or a gas range. I want something with open burners and an oven that isn't noisy (I'll allow noise when the convection is being used). I don't like BS because I can't get over the gym locker effect on the bottom. So I'm looking at the AR Performer.

The AR seems to be lacking in electronics. Does that result in a quieter oven (no cooling fan)?

Can the oven be lit with a match?

Do you need to stick an oven thermometer in to know when it's preheated? (Yeah, I know real bakers use those anyway!)

And a general question about range ovens: is a 36" range oven much worse than a 30" for preheating? Seems sort of giant!

Any other thoughts on open burner gas ranges? (I don't care if it's dual fuel or all gas.)

Thanks!

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deeageaux

The AR seems to be lacking in electronics. Does that result in a quieter oven (no cooling fan)?

I have not read of AR gas range owners complaining about oven noise. The lack of self-clean feature makes a cooling fan unnecessary

Can the oven be lit with a match?

No, only gas ovens with pilots can be lit with a match. Only commercial gas ovens and really inexpensive ranges targeted at off grid preppers getting ready for the end of the modern world have pilots now. AR and other pro-style ranges have glow plug oven ignitors.

Do you need to stick an oven thermometer in to know when it's preheated? (Yeah, I know real bakers use those anyway!)

There is reaching a given temp and then a stable temp. After trial and error you will now how long it takes to reach x temperature.

And a general question about range ovens: is a 36" range oven much worse than a 30" for preheating? Seems sort of giant!

In general it takes about 5 more minutes for a 36" oven to preheat vs the same brand and series 30" oven.

Any other thoughts on open burner gas ranges? (I don't care if it's dual fuel or all gas.)

There are 1970's standard semi-open ranges and commercial type pro-style true open burner ranges.

These are Performer Series, Bluestar and Capital Culinarian. They have better performance than semi-open or sealed burners.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2013 at 3:23AM
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Fori is not pleased

Thanks, Dee. I'm only prepping for the earthquake apocalypse and will probably have severed gas lines anyway so I guess I can do without a matchlight oven. (The hurricane or zombie apocalypses will probably at least leave the gas on.)

Are there really only the three open burner range lines out now for residential? Oh, NXR, but for some reason I'm not considering that one.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2013 at 12:10PM
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bmorepanic

The new RCS30 doesn't have the gym locker bottom. I am getting some pricing and applying softeners to dh.

I didn't faint at the first quote but I had to put it down and make a cuppa tea.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2013 at 1:41PM
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Fori is not pleased

Hehe. I just got back from the (semi-)local "high end" appliance store and of course they didn't have the Capital or AR on the floor. "We don't sell many of those." Gee. Could it be because they aren't on display??

Interesting how appliance snobbery has changed in just 5 years. When I was doing my last kitchen, this place was way too upscale to have BS and now they're pushing them hard.

Nothing looks as good as the orange Bertazzoni though...

    Bookmark   November 16, 2013 at 4:29PM
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jwvideo

>>>Are there really only the three open burner range lines out now for residential? Oh, NXR, but for some reason I'm not considering that one. NXRs only have sealed burners but you might want to check out Five Star and Viking both of whom still make residential, all-gas, open-burner ranges in the pro-style segment which is where you seem to be looking.

As Deeageaux noted, there are many other open burner residential ranges but they are aimed at markets other than you (at least until the zombie apocalypse, earthquake, megastorms, etc.) If interested, try a google/bing/whatever search on "ranges with open burners + aj madison" (or substitute any other favorite retail site) and you'll find brands including Frigidaire, Hotpoint/GE, Peerless-Premier, Brown Stove Works, Summit and Whirlpool.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2013 at 6:25PM
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tyguy

>Are there really only the three open burner range lines out now for residential?

There are only three (the ones dee mentions) with a commercial style open burner. All the other "open burner" residential ranges are a design very similar to todays sealed burners. I had an "open burner" viking and the burner performance and its inefficiency was almost identical to its sealed model.

    Bookmark   November 17, 2013 at 11:12AM
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Fori is not pleased

Thanks guys.

Our local apocalypse is overdue and will most likely interrupt gas service so I won't worry about that.

    Bookmark   November 17, 2013 at 1:11PM
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jwvideo

The link below is an example of what Tyguy is talking about when he says that other open burner units use a design similar to [many of] today's sealed burners. This is from a page with images of Jade ranges, another brand of open burner residential range. (AFAIK, Dvorson's is the only retailer, and brand is owned by the Middleby Group which acquired Viking last year, so its future as a brand is in doubt.) You need to scroll down the page to see the burners.

Here is a link that might be useful: Jade residential range images

    Bookmark   November 17, 2013 at 1:19PM
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tyguy

Thanks jw...those photos illustrate a typical residential open burner quite well

This post was edited by tyguy on Mon, Nov 18, 13 at 4:37

    Bookmark   November 18, 2013 at 4:26AM
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deforestliz

Stay away from American. If you get a good model you are fine, if you get a lemon they do not back their products. I have one of each and would not purchase even the good one if I had it to do over because of how I have been treated.

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