It's July 2013! How is your build progressing?

autumn.4July 1, 2013

Kicking it off for July.

On our front - house just sold, still waiting for plans. If all goes well we will break ground yet this year. Excited and anxious all at the same time. We will be renting in the interim.

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War_Eagle

Got final CO on Friday and we close today. Personally laid 6 pallets of sod in the rain and mud this weekend and will finish up landscaping over the next week or so. Still need to get shutters up and finish a few touch ups on paint inside and out. Oh and we need to move out of rental this week. Overwhelmed!

    Bookmark   July 1, 2013 at 8:48AM
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hoosierbred

I'm so excited that I can finally post on a "How is your build progressing" thread! We sold our house last month. From listing the house to moving out was a total of 4 weeks! Sold it quickly but had to close and be out within two weeks time. It was a good problem to have, I guess. :-)

As soon as we moved down with our daughter, we broke ground on our new place!

While waiting on subcontractor's final bids on the new house, we are having our pole barn built. It was fun to watch them build it last week.

And some rock dumped on the driveway so they can drive the trucks up to the pole barn.

If the rain stops long enough this week, they are supposed to bring in a load of rock to spread on the pole barn floor. Then they will spread an insulation blanket down. My husband is having radiant heat for the floor. So, the plumber will install pex tubing and then they'll bring in the concrete.

One thing we have noticed from our bids is that lumber prices have almost doubled since our daughter built on this property three years ago. And, it's consistent. This house is going to cost us a lot more than we originally planned. Sound familiar?

    Bookmark   July 1, 2013 at 9:13AM
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Eden-Manor

Stone started:

Walnut stairs are in:

I picked my marble and soapstone slabs and they have started HVAC and plumbing.

    Bookmark   July 1, 2013 at 3:11PM
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lexmomof3

We're finally seeing all of the months of agonizing decisions come together!

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 7:26PM
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zkgardner

Lexmom, what kind of sliding door is that in your living room? I love it!

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 11:41PM
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lexmomof3

Mrsfireman - I believe that they are Plygem Mira series sliding doors. I know that our windows are Plygem Pro series and I believe that the sliding doors are the grade above the Pro series. Most window companies sell a similar sliding door.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 5:50PM
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ontariomom

lexmom,

Your house is looking wonderful. Can you tell me about the exterior steps? How were they built?

Carol

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 6:52PM
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lexmomof3

Thanks Carol - as for the steps, it's a little hard to explain but I'll be glad to take pictures tomorrow and post them. Each step curves outward.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 7:23PM
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lexmomof3

Carol - here's the pics of the stairs.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2013 at 3:26PM
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ontariomom

lexmom,

The stairs are even nicer close up! Thanks for the pics. Is there a concrete or wood base under them?

Carol

    Bookmark   July 4, 2013 at 4:13PM
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lexmomof3

I believe there are concrete pillars under them. There is no wood. The front porch is concrete.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2013 at 5:15PM
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zone4newby

WIndows are in!

Here is a link that might be useful: Our House Blog

    Bookmark   July 4, 2013 at 8:14PM
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flgargoyle

The house is wrapped, the windows and doors are installed, and most of the interior framing is done. ICF usually isn't wrapped, but I needed to protect the foam from the sun during my slow, one-man build, and it's easier to detail the window flashing. I opted for steel studs for interior framing due to the poor quality of lumber available. Easy to install, and straight, straight, straight!

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 7:48AM
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Meg4440Roberts

Windows and doors are in, cement for front porch and garage was poured yesterday. Shop is complete!

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 11:01AM
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Meg4440Roberts

House and shop

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    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 11:02AM
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Meg4440Roberts

Shop

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 11:04AM
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Meg4440Roberts

Inside shop

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 11:05AM
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MFatt16

I don't usually post here yet but we have now submitted for permits and can't wait to break ground!!!! I thought we would never make it out of the design phase but I am glad we are getting the ball rolling.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 11:41AM
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amtrucker22

Meg4440Roberts That shop is HUGE!!!!! What is your plans for it?

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 5:11PM
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1littleladybug

Meg4440Roberts Very nice shop! What is the size of your shop? We are planning 30' by 50' with 16' sheds off of 2 sides.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 10:14PM
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FmrQuahog

what do you people do inside these giant outbuildings ("shops")?
cripes, I'm having trouble imagining ever using all the space inside the 3-car garage in our upcoming build; I can't imagine having a 30 x 50 "shop".
are y'all farmers or something?

    Bookmark   July 5, 2013 at 11:21PM
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flgargoyle

My barn is 28X48, and I hope it will be big enough! An old-timer once told me that you should build outbuildings three times bigger than you need, and it will be almost big enough.

In my shop, there will be an automotive lift, a machine shop, and a woodworking shop. Part of the barn will be partitioned off and used as a guest house/great room, since our house is small. Some of us have hobbies that get a little out of hand!

    Bookmark   July 6, 2013 at 6:50AM
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hoosierbred

Our pole barn is 30x50. It will be hubby's workshop. He's turned into a woodworker as a hobby. In fact, he needs to get our shop done because he's building our cabinets.

We had a 30x56 pole barn at our last house. We ended up selling our house so quickly that he didn't finish building the cabinets for the new house. Then we had to take apart all of the cabinet parts and store them. He didn't want the moving company to store and move them. He's going to do that himself.

Hubby thinks his "smaller" shop will never be big enough. But, we had to make some sacrifices with this new build.

    Bookmark   July 6, 2013 at 8:26AM
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jennybc

Electrical and plumbing going in... Might be saying this for a while since we are doing it ourselves. Also going to start siding as soon as the weather lets up. Painting claw foot tub. No noticeably new pics yet.

Jen

    Bookmark   July 6, 2013 at 8:55AM
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Meg4440Roberts

Shop is 40 x 80. Pole building put up by local Mennonites. Husband and father-in-law farm. Husband also works on diesel pickups, mechanical and diesel performance. It's a pretty common thing around here for shops to be this size!

    Bookmark   July 6, 2013 at 11:08AM
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1littleladybug

My husband owns a hauling and grading business. So his shop is for working on dump trucks and big equipment. He would really be happy with something larger than the 30' by 50' we plan.... But I don't want it to look too big.

    Bookmark   July 6, 2013 at 3:28PM
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sparkler39

It's hard to believe that on May 13th we just had dirtâ¦it's been quite a month! They finished insulation and wiring last week and drywall went up this week. There was actually a few guys working on July 4th which was surprising but very appreciated. We're on a bit of a time-crunch with our landlord and current rental situation so they're trying to push through and get it done a little early for us. The workers are routinely there until 6 or 7 every night and we've found them working a full day on Saturdays, too! I guess they're finishing drywall next week and installing the siding. The following week is hardwood and trim! Kitchen cabinets are all ordered and we're moving right along! :)

Here is a link that might be useful: Home-building blog

    Bookmark   July 6, 2013 at 5:10PM
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kath0000

Nothing too new for us. Still in escrow on our lot (waiting to get some papers from the city). Should close in 2 weeks. Finished designing our home and working on our landscaping now. We are presenting to our HOA in a week or two and then to the City we go. :)

Katherine

Below: DD coloring up our landscaping plan.

    Bookmark   July 6, 2013 at 5:51PM
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equallydivided

There is no possible way to take a photo of the entire front of house at this point. The Georgia pines are at our front door, so to speak. There is a 2 car garage to the left, not shown in picture. We will be clearing a few more trees before we are done, so more to come later! Also, I can only single post pics, so bear with me please.

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    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 8:19PM
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equallydivided

Back of house, siding and back deck completed (not an update pic of deck). Low voltage wiring for cable, alarm system, and interior sound system finished. Speaker wiring for living room, kitchen, master bedroom, master bath, and both upper and lower patios are installed. Inspections completed, so now for insulation and drywall this week.

I added an additional electrical outlet and kill switch for the patio ceiling at the last minute, so that I can have string bulb or decorative string lighting on the deck.

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    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 8:21PM
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equallydivided

2 person side-by-side installed, and bathroom television wired for tub viewing! Hubs and I like our leisure bath time together, and it is amazing how embarrassed I got in having to discuss these wishes with our plumber. Hubs got an elbow and a wink on more than one occasion, and from more than one sub. By the way, the tub is called "The Duke". I can't imagine how big a King would be ;)

Our shower is 4x6 with dual shower heads and dual sprayer, but no pics of that just yet.

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    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 8:25PM
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gabbythecat

Logs arrive this week - two and a half logging truck loads of materials from Montana. This week is when life really will get interesting! The foundation work has been necessary, I know, but a bit boring. Our site supervisor will start full time work this week, which will help, especially as the pace of work picks up.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 10:11PM
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Mauricio214

Here's where we are w/ our build. We are 2 months in from when we poured slab. Inside is almost ready for sheet rock.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2013 at 8:26AM
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gabbythecat

I need to learn how to post pictures, but not today...an observation from building in a very small town (population 3200): our logs arrived today - first shipment (of 3) - the electrician stopped by and discovered a minor problem with our foundation, Lowes called to gripe about appliance delivery, and the log delivery truck broke down while trying to maneuver onto our property. Anyhow - not a *bad* day, but the kind of day that calls for chocolate chip mint ice cream. I rarely eat it (calories and fat), but today *required* a comfort food treat.

I went to our local, small town grocery store for the ice cream. They didn't have much ice cream at all. The nearest store that has the good stuff is about 15 miles from our new house; I had to settle for vanilla, with chocolate sauce.

Living out here is going to be good for the waistline, but bad for my "I need mint ice cream when I've had a crisis day" habit.

(sorry if this is slightly OT, but it does sort of relate. Maybe)

    Bookmark   July 10, 2013 at 10:32PM
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boschboy

Pre-drywall walk through completed. Insulation has begun and all the windows are in. Front door still to be delivered.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2013 at 9:34AM
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steph0509

I guess it's time I finally jumped on board here since I love reading everyone's updates! We will be done with the painting this week and hardwoods are being installed in a few days. Only thing on the exterior that needs to be finished is the porch/garage slabs, porch columns, and all the trim.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2013 at 9:18PM
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Bridget Helm

looks good everyone!! we are just getting our plans for pricing to the builder. so we have about 2 months before we break ground. i can't wait!

    Bookmark   July 12, 2013 at 1:31AM
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zone4newby

We've got a roof! Lots of plumbing has been done too.

Here is a link that might be useful: Our House Blog

    Bookmark   July 13, 2013 at 8:35PM
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equallydivided

Drywall this week! Open cell foam has been sprayed in the roof, and caution to anyone having it done - the fumes are overwhelming - don't stick around for this part!

This is a picture of the garage, there is a bonus room over the top.

The heat on the second floor was very noticeable (even with all windows and doors open). Now that the foam is in, there is no difference between the first and second floor. It's made a huge difference, even in a completely open house.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2013 at 11:30AM
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boschboy

Brick going up and drywall has begun inside. Things are really moving along. I imagine it will seem slow once all the detail work begins inside.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2013 at 3:45PM
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sweet.reverie

Late update from me! We are past schedule but all work is scheduled to be completed on the 20th of the this month, WOOT WOOT! I miss my husband like crazy and after being a single mom to my girls for the past two and half months, I am ready for some help again!

My husband has been working is tail off at the house. But he is producing beautiful work :)

These are ALL cell phone pics, CRY. But soon I will get my real camera over there.

My littlest one's room painted mint with a chandelier. :)

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Interior doors:

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Fireplace tile:

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Walk in shower head, handle is right by the entrance to the shower so you don't have to soak yourself getting in.

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Front door painted! I love the color.

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If any of you are on instagram, I share more photos there since blogging is hard with my living situation. I am username fionamargo and all the house pics are under the hashtag #sweetreveriehouse

Everyone else's houses look great!!

    Bookmark   July 16, 2013 at 12:18AM
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FmrQuahog

Reverie, it's simply gorgeous. You have such excellent taste!! I'm very excited for you & your family - you're almost there!

    Bookmark   July 16, 2013 at 7:41PM
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autumn.4

Sweet.Reverie-I was just thinking about you and wondering how things were coming along! Everything looks great! I bet you can't wait to be back with hubby. Very clever idea for the shower handle. ;)

    Bookmark   July 16, 2013 at 9:29PM
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pam19

lexmom03 - Your house is beautiful. What plan is that?

    Bookmark   July 17, 2013 at 4:47PM
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lexmomof3

Thanks Pam19. The plan is The Abbeville by Southern Classic Designs but we made a ton of changes to the downstairs. We made the family room and kitchen more open, rearranged the master bath and made the living room a bedroom by moving the door and adding a shower to the bathroom. We also made the exercise room a side porch.
http://www.southernclassicdesign.com/home_plans/floorplan_detail/?id=104
Let me know if you're interested in the plan with our changes. I can post it or send it to you.

    Bookmark   July 17, 2013 at 8:07PM
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sweet.reverie

Thank you Autumn and FrmQuahog! I love how it is coming together.

Here is the latest picture, the master tub!


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Here is a link that might be useful: House Building Blog

This post was edited by sweet.reverie on Thu, Jul 18, 13 at 1:24

    Bookmark   July 17, 2013 at 11:44PM
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sweet.reverie

I'll just keep posting pics, lol
Front Porch

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    Bookmark   July 19, 2013 at 11:51PM
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niteshadepromises

Lovely progress all! I have a few more pics of our barebones framing progress but must admit I've been just too busy to keep up. Maybe in August!

    Bookmark   July 20, 2013 at 7:08AM
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sparky4sparky

House is going well. Brick columns and low walls are being installed. Inside insulation is InProcess with drywall starting next week.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2013 at 9:51PM
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FmrQuahog

I just want to get in on this deal already! ;-P
Nothing built...heck, we're still in permitting...but here's the lot frontage (at least some of it; it is 101 ft overall, and the pic probably captures half of that).
It pains us to have to kill a significant number of trees, but we'll save as many as possible.

Here is a link that might be useful:

    Bookmark   July 21, 2013 at 7:43PM
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pfieff

Framing is underway, love seeing the progress after losing almost a month to rain. This is a modified Don Gardner Zimmerman/Satchwell plan.

    Bookmark   July 21, 2013 at 10:44PM
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Epiarch Designs

Updated pictures in the blog.

Here is a link that might be useful: home blog

    Bookmark   July 22, 2013 at 12:37AM
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mayberry_moon

Beautiful houses! Reverie what a great porch!

    Bookmark   July 23, 2013 at 12:03AM
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jennybc

Siding going up!

Jen

    Bookmark   July 23, 2013 at 1:00PM
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Meg4440Roberts

Drywall has started inside and siding has started outside. Two crews working the next two weeks, so should see a LOT of progress!

    Bookmark   July 23, 2013 at 3:23PM
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Meg4440Roberts

Living room ceiling

    Bookmark   July 23, 2013 at 3:27PM
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Meg4440Roberts

Can't wait to see some more of this!

    Bookmark   July 23, 2013 at 3:28PM
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Lori (loribug26_gw) Wagerman_Walker

We have a driveway :)

    Bookmark   July 24, 2013 at 1:55PM
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amtrucker22

WOW!!!!!! That is a driveway!

    Bookmark   July 24, 2013 at 2:09PM
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sweet.reverie

Lori, what a fun driveway!!

Lzerarc, house looks so beautiful!

Jenn, what a pretty little house you have! How much land do you have?

    Bookmark   July 24, 2013 at 5:19PM
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jennybc

Lori~ So exciting! You were not kidding about a long driveway!

Sweet.reverie~ Thanks! We have 40 acres and lease an additional 50 for our cattle. Pond is just behind the house. You can see it and the deer or turkey in the "bottom" area/valley to the right, from the porches.
Porches should be going on first of August, then we can finish the top of the siding and sofitt.
Love your sofitt and doors!

Meg~ Love your siding color!

Jen

    Bookmark   July 25, 2013 at 7:09AM
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boschboy

Kitchen cabinets going in! Flooring is being put down today. Only 6 weeks until closing.

    Bookmark   July 25, 2013 at 10:24AM
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boschboy

Kitchen cabinets going in! Flooring is being put down today. Only 6 weeks until closing.

    Bookmark   July 25, 2013 at 10:25AM
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Lori (loribug26_gw) Wagerman_Walker

Ha yeah, It's always been my dream to have a long driveway. It might have gotten a little carried away, all 1600 ft. of it. Right now my husband is treating it like his baby. :)
lost count of how many triaxle loads of lime & stone, pipes and rip rap and new field tile & water way... oh my!! :)

    Bookmark   July 25, 2013 at 10:58AM
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Lori (loribug26_gw) Wagerman_Walker

The other day we jumped in the truck right in the middle of a downpour to go see where the water was running. :) lol

It's the little things I guess...

This is as far as it goes for now, the house will go in this spot. Still just trying to figure out exactly where & how we want it to sit.
Doing all the dirt work ourselves, but hopefully footers will be dug soon, along with the septic. Power & water are supposed to be coming back in the next week. The path thru the corn has been bushhogged, disked & prepared so back filling will be easier when it's done.

    Bookmark   July 25, 2013 at 11:06AM
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SLTKota

Hey equallydivided, you have my tub! You will love it! Just remember to get a faucet that flows A LOT of water so it doesn't take forever to fill up and make sure your hot water tank is big enough, I wish my tank were a bit bigger but I have only used the tub once (after running the shower).

For my build: I'm so close I can taste it, hopefully everything will be DONE next week but I sort of cheated and started with 3/4ths of a house. (I will start another post/blog once I am done)

The plumber comes tomorrow to plumb the sink and the the electrician comes next week to install the appliances. My punch list is down to one page! I can't wait!

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equallydivided

LOL STLKota, we will have 2, 50 gallon tanks. I hope that will do it!

I'm glad to hear that you love it! This was HIS choice, and he was adamant - even when he learned we would have to rip out and re-do some of the framing. I wanted the television in the bathtub - he wanted to bring in a laptop as needed. I won!

I'll talk to the plumber to make sure we get something compatable - great suggestion!

    Bookmark   July 25, 2013 at 10:23PM
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LawPaw

loribug26, Our driveway will be around 3000', about 2500' is abandoned railroad. Definitely easier to start with a bed that had been holding trains.

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LawPaw

Here's another pic, but they are from April.

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 12:16AM
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LawPaw

Here they are building up to the railroad bed.

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 12:17AM
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SLTKota

Equally divided, I've only been able to use it once so far but it is awesome, more of a hot tub than a bath tub lol, I can try to see what type my faucet is, I can't remember the brand but it flows a TON of water and after filling it up once, I'm glad it does. I'm just hoping my hot water heater will keep up if no one uses any hot water beforehand. I think that was my problem.

I'm going to do a write up in the kitchen forum (and one here for the rest of the house) once I'm done but here is a sneak peek of the final piece of my puzzle.

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 8:19AM
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Lori (loribug26_gw) Wagerman_Walker

LawPaw! AWESOME!!! Please post updated pictures as you have them. I love long driveways :)

Beautiful kitchen SLTKota!

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 2:53PM
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Lori (loribug26_gw) Wagerman_Walker

LawPaw! AWESOME!!! Please post updated pictures as you have them. I love long driveways :)

Beautiful kitchen SLTKota!

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 2:54PM
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sweet.reverie

We are soooo close!

Here is the kitchen, as view from the living room. Dining room table will be there in front of the french doors.

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Kitchen sink, looks out to backyard.

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"built in" fridge and dishwasher, our kitchen Ikea.

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Range hood.

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    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 4:31PM
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amtrucker22

I know you were showing us your kitchen, but I love those floors. :) Very nice!

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 4:41PM
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LawPaw

sweet reverie, I love the cabinets and countertop combo!

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 6:17PM
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ontariomom

Sweet Reverie,

You house is totally awesome and the kitchen is superb. I don't know how you handled being a single mom so long so your DH could get all those jobs done on the house. How much of the project did you DH do? Did he keep working full time while he worked on the house? Tell you DH his workmanship is outstanding.

Carol

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 7:21PM
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sweet.reverie

Carol,

Randomly, I just did a post about all the work he has done. I will link it at the bottom. He has a full time job BUT he is a firefighter and preemptively took all of May off and all of July off by using vacation and trading shifts. His normal schedule is a 48/96 so he is on for two days, off for four. It was hard at first because we both struggled with our roles, me being a single mom and him working on the house or at his job. And it was hard to realize we could not really help each other. Luckily, we are a very strong couple. :) I always knew we were but this experience solidified it.

And my husband is one of those annoying people who is good at everything (except dancing!). He can build anything. And he teaches himself and will re-do it until it is perfect.

Here is a link that might be useful: Hubs workload post

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 7:55PM
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LawPaw

Here is the my driveway in July. This is about 3/4 down, it curves after this a couple of times, but from here you can see to the highway.

It took ALOT of work to trim it up so that the concrete trucks could make it through.

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 8:18PM
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ontariomom

Sweet.Reverie,

I just read your link to see all that you and DH accomplished together (after all being a single mom is super tough). My DH is going to take some time off work this fall to try to move along our build closer to completion. I told him I can't stand another winter with a few electric heaters (we are in Canada it was brutal). We have being GCing the build ourselves, but not building it ourselves. That has been enough work. I will tell my DH he better learn how to caulk!!

It sounds like you started with a builder and then worked out with the builder that you would finish the later part of the house yourselves for a big reduction in cost. That was smart.

Enjoy your new home!

Carol

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 8:39PM
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sparkler39

Sweet Reverie, I love your photosâ¦your kitchen is gorgeous! I'm really excited to be posting hereâ¦our house is moving right along and I'm pretty sure we're on track for our closing at the end of August! Our garage doors were installed yesterday and they're hard at work painting the interior!

Here is a link that might be useful: My house-building blog

    Bookmark   July 28, 2013 at 12:47AM
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LOTO

We are getting closer...painters delayed us for about 2 weeks but they finally came back Friday and should be finished by Thursday. There is still some trim and crown to be installed around the fireplace cabinetry but at least the natural stone and granite is installed. Kitchen glass tile backsplash will be grouted on Monday.
The Oak mantle shelf is from a 150 year old barn..had it sawed down a bit to expose the clean wood and it came out looking great.

    Bookmark   July 28, 2013 at 8:29AM
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texas_cajun

It's been a long time since I posted our floor plans to the forum. We broke ground on July 1st and they have completed the basic framing of the first floor as of today, (except the garage). We completed demolition on the old house in December and since then, several old houses on our street have come down and been replaced. We are one of the few that bought the lot and then hired an architect - the other lots seem to have been snapped up by builders who then sell the homes on spec (the neighborhood is in a tremendous revival, so the economics work). It is an urban home - I feel sometimes as though I am the only person who isn't building on lots of land :)

Foundation piers/garage slab:

Framed 1st floor:

    Bookmark   July 28, 2013 at 5:27PM
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bushda76

Lexmomof3,

Wonderful looking home. Would you mind sharing your brick, mortar, and roof shingle selections? I'm building a similar plan and am having a difficult time selecting these.

Many Thanks.
Dave

    Bookmark   July 29, 2013 at 8:47AM
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Lori (loribug26_gw) Wagerman_Walker

Sweet.reverie, I do love your floor!!

Can I ask what it is?

Thanks!!

    Bookmark   July 29, 2013 at 4:03PM
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Ray_17

LOTO, love your fireplace. What make & model number is your fireplace? Thanks

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 12:29PM
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musicgal

Hey Ray- This is a 2013 thread. LOTO may not be reading it to answer. See if you can email.

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 12:36PM
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Ray_17

Musicgal - wow thanks didn't realize that, LOL

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 8:43PM
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