Miele DW: Help me choose

covingtoncatJuly 6, 2013

Trying to decide between the classic and the crystal. My local appliance store has ONE integrated G4275SCSF available at 1050.00 (this is the classic). The Crystal: G5285SCSF at the list price of $1599. For the extra $600 it looks like I get the turbo, china and crystal and the softener. I would use the C&C feature a few times a year, but not sure what else. Our water here is pretty soft, so I'm not sure the softener is necessary. What else am I missing? Is it worth the extra $$$? I know that the Crystal is also quieter, but compared to what I have now, ANY Miele will be a huge upgrade. They also have BOSCH and Blomberg for around 8-900, but the flexibility in the Miele seemed to top the price point for me.

Any suggestions appreciated. If I'm going to get the classic, I probably need to let them know by tomorrow or Monday at the latest. TIA

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FmrQuahog

hahaha
there is simply NO WAY your plates will be clean unless you drop at least $1600 on a "meal-uh" dishwasher.

sucker

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 12:41AM
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deeageaux

The difference in sound is about 2 db, probably not worth $600.

The reason to upgrade is for the water softener.

If you have soft water you don't need it.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 1:17AM
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covingtoncat

Thanks Deegeaux! Not really worried about the sound difference, but the China and Crystal feature would be handy. Currently I hand wash my vintage and good antique china and it would be very nice to have. I'm in the PNW and my water is pretty good.

And Farmer: Not that its really going to change your position, but I am replacing a $600 4 year old DW that was "top rated, bang for you buck" in CR when new. Go figure, but it doesn't get my dishes clean.

Its Bosch, Miele or Blomberg for me.

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deeageaux

If the China and Crystal is important to you make sure the plumber connects your DW to the Cold.

Every plumber wants to connect Miele to Hot.

Even after you tell them to connect to cold, it is habit they can't seem to break.

Connecting Miele to Hot saves a little electricity and wash time but renders the China and Crystal setting ineffective.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 2:22AM
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covingtoncat

That would stink! Paying a premium for that feature and then having it essentially be useless. Insult to injury especially when you are paying for the install to boot. Man!
Thanks for the warning.

I'm also wondering if the adjustable cutlery rack is worth considering. I don't put my good knives in the washer, but ladles and some larger items could be a challenge.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 1:11PM
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nycbluedevil

IMO, the adjustable cutlery rack is a great upgrade. My old Miele DW had the regular cutlery rack, which was great, but the adjustable 3D rack allows loading of deeper utensils, which is even better. On my last Miele, DH loaded a soup ladle in the cutlery rack and broke off the upper wash arm!

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 1:41PM
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rococogurl

I really use china & crystal setting for good dishes. It's also use it frequently for light and small loads. I run the dw every night as the idea of leaving dirty dishes over a few days is gross to me.

As deeageaux said, with that cycle, cold hook up is important. (I don't find it logical to hook up a dw with a heater to hot water but that's another issue).

We had another home, now sold, where I got a newer version of the same model plus express -- closer to the current configuration. That one had removable racks in the bottom which super convenient for pots and pans. I also really like the adjustable center rack and being able to adjust the top one as well seems like a plus.

My original machine is now 10 and going strong. If I had to replace it I would get the china/crystal again plus adjustable top tray and, budget permitting, the lights (spoiled by my washing machine with interior lighting).

Over time, I find having the flexibility of the features is really great as it helps expand the capacity.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 2:01PM
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covingtoncat

I can get the China/Crystal in the Crystal models, but it looks like I'd have to upgrade to the Dimension to get the 3D cutlery rack, correct? That's a pretty steep upgrade in price (an extra $300) to go from the Crystal to Dimension, or am I missing something?

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 2:48PM
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rococogurl

deeageaux is likely up on the pricing intricacies and, of course, it can vary depending on where you live and if you catch a deal.

F.ex. I paid $1189 for my Excella 10 years ago so the upcharges don't seem as steep to me -- or at least I can say that mine paid off over time.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2013 at 3:15PM
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Lisa71

Hi covingtoncat,

I'm looking at Miele as well and trying to decide between Classic and Dimension. I found that if you don't mind front controls vs. the handle then you can save a little that way.

I'm intrigued by the 3D cutlery tray and the better drying on the Dimension, but I haven't been able to figure out how much better the drying actually is. Can anyone give feedback on that? Thanks.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2013 at 5:20PM
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rickyk22

we just bought the dimension. We went with this model to get the extra flexibility of the 3d cutlery tray and flexicare premium (Adjustable XL cup rack, wine glass holder and cookware mode provide exceptional flexibility and care). Plus it has the turbo mode and open air drying which is supposed to help with the plastics, which we do a lot of. We don't get it delivered till Wednesday though, so I cant tell you how we like it yet.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2013 at 9:04PM
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Kitten1313

I was set on a Miele but ultimately decided on a Bosch 500 series. Several hundred dollars cheaper, it has the cutlery tray and speed wash - which were the 2 most important features for me. I cant see myself using anything other than normal, sensor or pots/pans mode 90% of the time, so for me, paying for extra cycles was pointless.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2013 at 9:50PM
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covingtoncat

We went with last year's dimension model , so unfortunately, no open air drying. The choice of models the showroom had of discontinued's was rather limited but I am happy that I got the 3D cutlery rack and all the adjustable racks and the china and crystal setting. My delivery is scheduled for Aug 3rd ): so I can't comment on the unit yet. I'm going to call my salesperson to see if I can move it up to an earlier date. Thanks everyone for your helpful suggestions and tips.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2013 at 10:08PM
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Lisa71

covingtoncat - please let us know how you like it when it's installed. I'd love to know how well the drying works.

Thank you!

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 12:59AM
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covingtoncat

Will do. I was unable to get the delivery moved up, so it wont be installed till next weekend. ):

    Bookmark   July 26, 2013 at 5:57PM
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mjocean

We just installed the Dimension Plus and we love it. Very quiet and love the pop open feature. The adjustable shelves are great - the machine offers a lot of flexibility. The cutlery rack takes some getting used to loading flatware but it becomes easier with use.
MJ

    Bookmark   July 28, 2013 at 9:10AM
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Lisa71

convingtoncat - how's the new dishwasher? I'm still trying to decide between the Classic and the Dimension with the pop open drying feature.

I'm wondering how well yours dries (especially plastic) without the auto open drying feature.

Thanks!

    Bookmark   September 11, 2013 at 12:59PM
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covingtoncat

It does well with most plastics, but not everything totally every time. Some of my footed glassware still pools water, so its not totally drying everything. I don't use that much plastic though. HTH

    Bookmark   September 11, 2013 at 11:56PM
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