Everlast Siding?

djdoggoneMay 5, 2012

Has anyone installed Everlast siding?

At 65 Hubby doesn't want to sign on for the maintenance involved with wood siding so we are looking at alternatives. A friend has told us about Everlast because it is butt-joined and looks more like traditional clapboard.

Anyone have anything to share about this siding?

Thanks, Deb

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renovator8

This material is PVC with inorganic fillers presumably to prevent it from expanding as much as regular PVC/vinyl siding that must be lapped to accommodate the high degree of expansion and contraction of PVC.

I would be skeptical that the system could accommodate movement well enough for the panels to be butt jointed. Those joints would also need to be carefully flashed since caulking would be inadequate to seal them. A strip of Tyvek might be adequate but it is strange that the manufacturer doesn't address this issue in a straightforward manner. Are the boards butted against the vertical trim too?

I have seen another manufacturer's version of this product where the vertical boards were cut out to allow the siding to slide behind it. That company was much more forthcoming about the details. I expect to see the materials and details before considering a product. This company appears to only provide vague written descriptions and that tells me they expect builders rather than architects to specify it. Normally I would get a ton of promotional material in the mail or see it at the yearly Build Boston show if a company thought architects might want to use it.

Find a company rep who knows how it works.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2012 at 5:27PM
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djdoggone

Thanks, Renovator8. I can always count on you for good advice. (Our windows -- we stuck with the Marvin Ultimates because, though we could have gone more efficient, we couldn't have gone nicer -- have been planned/sized based on your very keen wisdom.)

A neighbor had the product installed last year because his wife's brother was familiar with it. He likes the product but was not impressed with the installation. It looks good because it isn't shiny and doesn't overlap and parts fit together like wood -- no J Channel -- but it does require special flashing at joints, as you said. The promotional literature says it is a mixture of resins and ground rock so it is doesn't expand and contract like PVC and is not susceptible to moisture like cement board. But, as with anything, installation is all important. We are looking into whether or not we can install the product ourselves.

We have looked at the promotional literature for the new Marvin fiberglass siding, Apex. I love the fact that they have incorporated a rain plane as part of the system but it doesn't look as though it would mimic traditional architecture very well. The promotional photos are of modern houses -- not a Cape Cod piece of trim in sight -- which suit the narrow trim. We will have to find out more to figure out if our little cottage could be decked out in fiberglass garb. Also, Marvin has chosen to highlight its product difference by providing only bold -- and I do mean BOLD -- colors, which aren't the least bit suitable for our setting.

Do you know of another low-maintenance product that we might investigate? The gentleman at the building supply center from whom we will buy our windows has suggested Certainteed Cedar Impressions shake siding. He very kindly invited us to his home to see it in situ. It does look better than other vinyl sidings but it still suffers from PVC's weaknesses. But he did a lovely job of marrying it with his Cape trim in Azek. From the catalogue I thought to get the driftwood colored siding because it is a blended color but it is only available in the 7' shakes which are too large for our compact cottage.

Regards, Deb

    Bookmark   May 6, 2012 at 8:55AM
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erineve

Deb, we've been looking at apex & everlast and are undecided. what did you end up going with?

    Bookmark   January 13, 2013 at 10:51PM
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djdoggone

We've decided on the Apex siding, which will go on this summer. Marvin has offered to help us through the installation. Thank goodness! Is is very pricey but we only have 846 s.f. of house.

Though we like the look of the Everlast -- in our opinion the best look-alike -- we are concerned about a system which requires caulk to maintain water-tightness. Will it hold up for decades? especially as we will be in our late 80's at that time and not up to major re-caulking. Renovator8 was wise in his cautions; flashing is critical.

We have elected Apex because it has a built in water plane and requires no maintenance but it will not be pretty. I grew up on Cape Cod in the 50's, with weather-beaten shingles and white trim and shrub roses. That is my idea of beautiful. But you have to be prepared to replace rotting wood. Unfortunately, that is now beyond our financial and physical capabilities. Getting old is not for whips.

    Bookmark   January 16, 2013 at 10:11AM
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ribidibi

Hi, djdoggone. Did you do the Apex siding? We are going to be using it on our 1904 Victorian in the Jamaica Plain part of Boston. We're not using their trim, though... with the pvc color trim (EX-Cel by Jain), it looks like clapboard and wood trim. Was wondering how your project came out. I hear you on the painting... no more for us...
Smiles... Ri

    Bookmark   April 26, 2013 at 10:02PM
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LilGoose

I first saw this product at a home show in the Boston area and the product looks impressive. Unlike the fiber cement siding the I have seen peeling on my neighbor's house, this stuff has no wood. Also, I like that it doesn't need caulking because I have seen where the caulking discolors and looks really obvious on some houses.I did ask about the butt joints and they said that a flashing is installed behind.

Since then I have driven by a few houses with this installed and it looks really good. I am not quite ready to do it, but when I do reside my house, I think this is a good option.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 10:56AM
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mnovak99

After a lot of research Everlast siding looked like the best option to me. My job was completed last month. You can see before and after pics over in this thread: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/remodel/msg1213433917003.html

    Bookmark   September 13, 2014 at 9:59AM
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