Tile experts, please help

nancyaustinMay 22, 2014

We're redoing our master bath and I am searching for porcelain tile that looks like travertine or crema marfil marble. I would like to have the floor tile rectangular, laid in a herringbone pattern, and the wall tile rectangular, laid in a brick pattern with a 50%, not 30-335, overlap---if that is the way to describe it. I can find many square porcelain tiles but no rectangular tiles that are smaller than 12 x 24. I have been told that tiles 18" or smaller have fewer problems with lippage.
Can a rectified 18" porcelain tile be cut in half and laid in a herringbone pattern? One tile store person told me it wouldn't work, because the cut edge of the tile would chip. Another tile store person told me it would work if the tile is rectified..
Also, can a 12 x 24 tile be laid in the brick 50% overlap pattern, if a lashing system is used to adjust the height of the tile? If so, what lashing system works best?
Thank you in advance for your advice.

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badgergal

I am not a tile expert but I do know that Daltile has a porcelain tile in there Florentine series that mimics Crema Marfil. They have 24x24, 12x24, 12x12 and 2x4 brick joint mosaic in a matte finish. They have 12x24 and and10x14 in glossy finish.
I have not seen the Crema Marfil in person but my DD just had their Florentine Carrara installed in her bathroom. Her tiler thought the tile was a very nice quality. Everyone that has seen the installed tile thinks it looks great. Maybe the Crema Marfil would work for you if it can be cut to the sizes you want.
Just in case you are interested here is what the Florentine Carrara looks like in her bathroom.

And here is a picture of the Crema Marfil from Daltile's website

    Bookmark   May 23, 2014 at 12:09AM
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nancyaustin

Badgergal, your daughter's bathroom is stunning and seeing the tile laid in a stacked layout is very good-looking.

I hope that bill_vincent, mongoct or Stonetech will confirm that an 18" square porcelain rectified tile can be cut in half so that it can be laid in a herringbone pattern. I'll look for the Daltile crema marfil tile and I appreciate that you provided the suggestion and the link.

Thanks.

    Bookmark   May 23, 2014 at 12:17AM
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nancyaustin

Bump----hoping to hear from the tile experts!

    Bookmark   May 23, 2014 at 7:20PM
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jerzeegirl

You can try to find 9 x 18" porcelain tile with the travertine look.

    Bookmark   May 23, 2014 at 11:51PM
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Iowacommute

Look for Enduring's herringbone thread in the bathroom forum. Mongoct gave her several posts from cutting them (which she did) to how to figure out the pattern. Good luck.

    Bookmark   May 24, 2014 at 12:38AM
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nancyaustin

IowaCommute, thank you very much for the suggestion. I found the April 6, 2012 thread about cutting enduring's slate tiles and mongoct's detailed layout instructions. Very helpful! However, my understanding that natural stone tiles, including the slate that enduring was using, is a good product to be cut and that the cut edge will look fine. (I did this on the travertine tile we used in our laundry room.) However, some of the tile sales people tell me that cutting rectified porcelain tile produces a cut edge that is not acceptable. I've not found a rectangular floor tile that is 9 x 18 or 6 x 12 that looks like travertine or other stone. I have found 18" square porcelain throughbody rectified tile that I hope can be cut in half to produce the 9 x 18 tile I'd like to use for a herringbone pattern.
I am hoping that the tile experts will assure me that the tile can be cut and look fine. Or, if anyone knows of a source of rectangular porcelain floor tile that looks like stone, that would be great, too.

    Bookmark   May 24, 2014 at 11:03AM
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jerzeegirl

Here is one for you in 9 x 18".

Try typing "9 x 18 Porcelain Travertine look" into a google search and you will get some hits.

Here is a link that might be useful: Florida Tile

    Bookmark   May 24, 2014 at 12:04PM
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nancyaustin

jerzeegirl, thank you. I found this tile but the 9 x 18 is only for wall use, not floor.

    Bookmark   May 24, 2014 at 2:06PM
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StoneTech

Yes, it can certainly be cut to the size you need. "Dressing" the cuts with a "rub stone" will break any sharp edges and, with the grout installed, there should be absolutely no problems with it.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2014 at 10:08PM
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nancyaustin

Thank you so much, StoneTech! I can find many 18" or 20" square tiles that I like so knowing that they can be but in half and "dressed" should work.

What do you think of having 10 x 20 inch tiles laid in a brick pattern with a 50% overlap? Will lippage be a problem?

    Bookmark   May 27, 2014 at 12:39AM
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StoneTech

Nancy~ It all depends on how flat the tiles are. If they're "perfect," a 50/50 overlap should be good. If they're "bowed" then a 1/3 overlap should be used to eliminate any lippage.

Pictures, we need pictures!

    Bookmark   May 27, 2014 at 4:14PM
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Jean Bo

NancyAustin, I am not a tile expert but you are on the right track to come in here and ask the experts and do searches and find your answers. My thoughts on the matter is keep looking till you find the right tile. If you are going to ask your tile guy to make all those cuts and dress all those edges your are going to run your labor costs though the roof. I had my tile guy make baseboards out of natural stone and that went ok cause it was soft and he was able to quickly sand smooth the cut edge but for 2 of the cuts on that tile he had a finished edge to work with and did not have to mess with it. You are asking for each and every tile to be sanded and porcelain is rock hard... don't know how that would go..... Also the beauty of porcelain is you have that razor straight edge to do tight joints...... You are better off to keep looking IMO and find something that is more inline with what you ultimately want.. Sometimes this takes a long time to find the exact "that it" tile. I have looked for a couple of years to find the "that's it" tile.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2014 at 5:14PM
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