Lacanche-- Sully or Citeaux?

ihdecostaMay 29, 2012

(I've also posted this in Lacanche Ranges 42)

Ok, all, I'm plunging in.

We are about to embark on a major kitchen remodel, including an extension so I can finally get enough space to work when we have the whole family here. I cook for either 2-3 or 10-20 on a regular basis. When the family is gathered, there are often 3-4 cooks, including my daughter-in-law, baker extraordinaire.

I've looked at most of what's out there. Can't stand the looks of the "professional-industrial" class like Wolf. I have lived with an Aga cooker in England and loved it, but it doesn't make sense resale-wise for where I live (Chicago area) in a house that I know I won't stay in forever. Same for La Cornue (wouldn't spend that money for a not forever house). Looked at Ilve, but didn't think it was built well enough for the price.

So Lacanche it seems to be-- has everything I want, and is beautiful as well.

My question is, Sully or Citeaux? I love the idea of a warming oven and a convection as well as a large gas oven. My concern is that the vertical oven/warming cupboards of the Citeaux are too small to be really useful when I am cooking for the family (the 10-20 scenario, which happens at least twice a month)

Sully, on the other hand, has two reasonably sized ovens, but no warming cupboard.

I can't go above 60", so the Sully 1800 and 2200 are out.

I've read all the comments I can find, and some people love the small ovens, and others chose against them.

Also, I haven't yet seen any Lacanche, and my kitchen designer doesn't know them, so I can't tell if they are as well built as they should be for the price. (i.e. no loose doors)

And the usual concerns about repairs-- how do people handle this if there is no dealer in the area?

Any help at all is appreciated!!!

Thanks very much

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philwojo

ihdecosta, I can't help with your questions, but I also live in the Chicago area and I was curious who you are using for your remodel, feel free to send me an email with that info or post it here, your choice. To send me the email click on my name or mypage link to get to that info.

thanks,
Phil

    Bookmark   May 29, 2012 at 10:34AM
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rococogurl

I don't have a Lacanche though I have several friends who do and they love their ranges.

One aspect of having a Lacanche appears to be unusually fine service and support from the folks at French Ranges, the Lacanche dealer.

I'd call and discuss all this with them. And I know in the past they have arranged for folks to see ranges locally.

Best of luck with your purchase!

Here is a link that might be useful: French Ranges

    Bookmark   May 29, 2012 at 11:43AM
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chris11895

We've gone back and forth and back and forth with this exact same decision - Sully vs. Citeaux. In the end, we're leaning towards the Citeaux. Definitely contact Elisa at Frenchranges.com. She'll see if there is anyone in your area who has one and then you can visit one in person. The Citeaux is new, so the only caveat is you may not be able to see one live unless you're willing to go to NYC. If you have specific pans you're worried about using, send the dimensions to Elisa and she will see if the pan fits or not. For example, I wondered if my popover pan would fit in the vertical convection oven and it does. She had the technical department check it to confirm. Also, one of the things that swayed me to the Citeaux was Chef Marty (on the Lacanche thread) talking about how he uses the warming cupboard to slow cook and I can totally see my husband doing this. Let us know what you choose!

Here is a link that might be useful: Popover Pan

    Bookmark   May 29, 2012 at 3:20PM
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finestra

I got the Sully. The ovens fit my cookie sheets and my roaster. I had a warming drawer in my old set up and never used it. People who like a warming drawer, swear by them though. The Sully is extremely well made and solid, like 600lb solid. The doors are heavy, the knobs are substantial. There is nothing tinny about the thing. We live close to NYC, so I went in and viewed it with my pan in hand. Elisa is very, very helpful and accommodating. Mine has one gas and one electric convection. FYI, shipping is a substantial cost for these.

    Bookmark   May 30, 2012 at 2:54PM
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ihdecosta

Thanks, everyone
I have spoken with Victoria and she is extraordinarily helpful, and has reassured me about service. I have also spoken to Elisa, and she is arranging for me to see an actual Lacanche in my area. So even though I have not yet become an owner, I can attest to the amazing service and care given by the people at Art Culinaire.
chris11895-- those are exactly the popover pans I have-- and I use them frequently. They were going to be one of my test pieces for oven size! You've saved me some trouble.
I'm still on the fence between the two-- I also find the warming cupboard very appealing, but my daughter-in-law is, like I said, a baker extraordinaire, and may want larger ovens for multiple cookie trays and pies-- but we'll see.

    Bookmark   May 30, 2012 at 3:02PM
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Gigi_4321

I've been cooking with my Sully since Thanksgiving and love it. The ovens still seem a bit small compared to my former wall ovens though. It comes with a lot of extra stuff, does anyone know what that black crown looking thing is for? I worked with Victoria and am amazed at the wonderful service both before and after the purchase. Good luck with your decision, and don't forget to post photos. I swear, anticipating the arrival of a Lacanche is like waiting for your first child to be born. Maybe better.

    Bookmark   May 31, 2012 at 12:54AM
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Gigi_4321

I've been cooking with my Sully since Thanksgiving and love it. The ovens still seem a bit small compared to my former wall ovens though. It comes with a lot of extra stuff, does anyone know what that black crown looking thing is for? I worked with Victoria and am amazed at the wonderful service both before and after the purchase. Good luck with your decision, and don't forget to post photos. I swear, anticipating the arrival of a Lacanche is like waiting for your first child to be born. Maybe better.

    Bookmark   May 31, 2012 at 12:55AM
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finestra

Is the black crown looking thing a wok ring?

    Bookmark   June 1, 2012 at 10:38PM
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Gigi_4321

Is that it? oops, I've been woking directly on the big center burner. I really need to read the booklet.

    Bookmark   June 4, 2012 at 12:43PM
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LauraFaye

I realize this is an old thread, but I am curious if you went with a Lacanche in the end, and if so which you chose? I'm curious about the vertical Citeaux oven :)

    Bookmark   April 27, 2014 at 5:21PM
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