Alternative to Carlisle Wide Plank?

farmhousegirlMarch 26, 2012

We like the look of Carlisle flooring..8-12" planks. Does anyone know of a brand that does this 'look' prefinished? Seems the wide plank at the local flooring store all has that beveled edge that make the floor look really lined and choppy. Has anyone found something similar to the Carisle wide look in stores prefinished?

Thanks!!

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westiegirl

Unfortunately, I am not familiar with anyone who goes as wide as you are looking for prefinished. However, I did get samples and quotes from Pennington Hardwoods, who would go up to 5 or 6 inches wide.

They were excellent and very easy to work with, and would do any color or sheen that I asked for and sent out samples of what I was looking for. We ended up going with a different/local supplier that we were able to get unfinished and finish ourselves for less money, but I wouldn't have hesitated to order from Pennington.

Good luck!

Here is a link that might be useful: Pennington Hardwoods

1 Like    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 12:01PM
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andi_k

These are really neat and very reasonably priced. I got samples from these guys and they were great.

Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.colonialplankfloors.com/

1 Like    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 12:21PM
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farmhousegirl

Thanks guys! Andi, what did you decide on a floor? I am not wanting to go too rustic, but want the charm of a wide plank floor. I liked the white oak at Carlisle, but not the price. Did you make a decision.

1 Like    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 2:00PM
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andi_k

Yes, we are going with reclaimed wood floors - antique oak beam sawn. They were about 1/2 the price of your Carlisle quote. So, if you are interested, I'd definitely look into them. We are doing just the regular finish on the edges - so they are squared, not overly done! We are just finishing them with 3 coats of Waterlox - 2 Original coats and then the last coat in the satin finish.

Also, if you are doing hardwood stairs, get that pricing as well. I never even really thought about it til recently and I just bit the bullet on that extra cost. My builder was thinking we could do character grade oak to match close enough. And, he's probably right. No one else but me would know. But, I have to say, the waterlox on reclaimed oak is just to-die-for (imo)! So, we are also getting the stair treads and railings in the reclaimed also.

Here is a link that might be useful: supplier for my hardwood floors

    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 2:21PM
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farmhousegirl

Oh Andi, thanks so much! This appears to be what I'm looking for. I like the Quarter Sawn White Oak in wide plank. How wide are you going? Im thinking maybe 10-12."

Is the waterlox applied onsite? I am unclear what waterlox is.

I really like the straight, non-beveled edges also. That is why I don't want a prefinished product from the regular flooring store. The planks look choppy and the edges are too deep. I prefer a more flat appearance. Those floors make me dizzy and some look plastic and unnatural.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 4:20PM
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westiegirl

I'm not Andi, but I have lots of experience with Waterlox! DH and I finished our 5" white oak floors with Waterlox and I am in the process of using it on all the window, door, and baseboard trim on the house.

Waterlox is a tung oil based product mixed with other stuff that makes is hard and "build" with multiple applications rather than just soak into the wood like true tung oil wood. We mixed our first coat of Waterlox with stain for a darker color on the floors and I am applying it on the trim after a conventional apply stain, then wipe off process. However, you can just use the Waterlox without stain for a lighter look. It will give a slight amber appearance to the wood however. Our floors have 2 coats original (first coat mixed with 1 part Minwax walnut stain to 5 parts Waterlox) and the 3rd coat is Waterlox, satin sheen.

Finishing our floor was once of the easiest diy projects that my husband and I did on this build. We had no experience with floor finishing and it was very easy for us, so I am sure an experienced, understanding installer should have no problems. If you want more detail on our application process, just let me know.

Here is a shot of the floors:

    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 5:06PM
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andi_k

westiegirl - those floors are gorgeous!!!

farmhousegirl - we are actually going with 4.5 - 6.5 random width. The flooring is actually old barn beams sliced down to flooring, so the beams are only so wide to begin with. But, I just loved them, so I sacrificed the width we were originally going for (8-10"), for the beam sawn floors.

Here is a link that might be useful: more on waterlox

    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 7:02PM
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buckheadhillbilly

Hi, farmhousegirl!

I agreee with you that the bevelled edge is strange looking and probably a nightmare to keep clean. And speaking of crumbs and dog hair accumulating in the cracks and crevices of your floor, that was one reason I chose not to do wide plank floors. The wider the boards are the wider the cracks are when the boards contract. And then there is the added expense of gluing down the floors. And the higher chance of cupping and warping.

Since we had our floors made from our trees, we could have had any widths, but we chose to do a random width in 3, 4 and 5 inches. I think I mentionaed it before, but we also used muliple coats of waterlox and our floors are quartersawn white oak(no stain).

So I guess my alternative suggestion would be to think hard about the wide plank.

Here is a link that might be useful: more quartersawn white oak photos

    Bookmark   March 26, 2012 at 9:38PM
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graceshan

We ended up going with SimpleFloors wide plank oak handscraped floors. They use a technique where they put 3 pieces of wood together (tongue & groove) so they are 7.87" wide and beautiful. We've not installed them yet but I'm super excited about them!! And at $6.28/sf very affordable compared to others.

Here is a link that might be useful: SimpleFloors Reclamation Plank floors

    Bookmark   March 27, 2012 at 1:02PM
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farmhousegirl

Gosh, thank you all so much for this information.

Westiegirl, what are your floors and where did you get them? That is the look we are going for. Buckhead, love your house and those floors! I agree with the issues on the wider planks warping, etc...so something we need to think about. Grace, thanks for the link on Simplefloors...very nice!

Floors really scare me. They can really change the entire feeling of a house! My friend did her beautiful 2 million dollar house in a wide plank, espresso wood that looks like plastic. It's so sad because the house looks just awful with that floor. It really would've had a better feel without that plastic look. I want to be really careful to avoid that.

    Bookmark   March 28, 2012 at 9:43PM
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westiegirl

Our floors are 5 inch wide "character grade" white oak. We purchased them unfinished from a supplier in Illinois that my husband had business relationship with. However, this type of white oak is readily available all over the country (I also checked out Hurst Hardwoods as an internet supplier, but never had any dealings with them).

Ours were just under $2.00 per square foot unfinished and I estimated that with the cost of our finishing products and sander rental the total cost after finishing was $3.50 per square foot, but that was considering our labor was free!

Because they are character grade, there are numerous knots scattered throughout them. When you see them unfinished, it is very scarey because the knot is so much darker than the unstained board. All of my family thought we were nuts to install them! Once stained then knots blend in and I think add to the unique look. The knots will collect bits of dust/dirt/etc. but they vacuum clean very easily. Our DD is the only one who complains about them. She is six and likes to dance and skip all over and will occasionally stub her toe or catch it in a knot.

We finished them ourselves. Rented a good quality floor sander for the weekend and sanded 3 times, each time going up to a higher grit. I think we started at 80 grit and ended at 160 grit, but my numbers might be off slightly. Between each sanding, I vacuumed them with the shop vac. After the last sanding, I vacuumed three times, finishing up with my household upright vacuum to make sure there was no dust left on the floor.

The first coat of finish was 5 parts original Waterlox and 1 part Minwax walnut stain, lightly stired together into a big mop bucket on wheels. We applied this mixture with a large lambs wool pad that looked like a dust mop. It is important to keep a wet edge and feather your laps strokes over each other so that the stain evenly spreads out. The second coat was applied approximately 24 hours later, again with the lambs wool pad and mop bucket, but this time it was just plain original Waterlox. The last coat was applied 5 days later (we were working on the weekends) and used the same method, but with satin Waterlox. Each coat took us approximately 2 hours to apply to 2000 square feet. The stain coat took slightly longer, the other coats took slightly less time. There is no need to sand between coats like you do with poly, which is my favorite part of working with it!

The first few coats can look splotchy and bad when dried. Because it is a tung oil based product, it soaks into the wood instead of sitting on the top like poly. Subsequent coats do not soak in as much and build more quickly. They start to feel more smooth and look more even.

You have now heard more about my floors than you ever wanted, but it really is one of my favorite things about the house and everyone comments positively on them now (they still ask about how I keep the knots clean!). Here is a different shot in darker lighting of our foyer with floors. You can see on the walls towards the bottom where we slopped the mixture onto the drywall. This is getting covered up as we apply the baseboard.

This pic is during installation prior to stain:

    Bookmark   March 28, 2012 at 10:21PM
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michoumonster

we are going with duchateau. the planks are around 8 or 9 inches wide i think. it is prefab engineered wood. they come in handscraped or smooth. i am going to use solid wood for stairs though as the duchateau stair pieces are pricey.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2012 at 4:09PM
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greg_gaylord

We have awesome wide plank floors up to 11.5" wide. The lengths are up to 120" and the average length is between 72-84". They give you the rustic look of Carlisle flooring but with a 40-year warranty and almost half the price!

Here is a link that might be useful: Gaylord Hardwood Flooring

    Bookmark   April 11, 2014 at 7:50PM
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Carlisle Wide Plank Floors

Good Morning - Carlisle has been supplying prefinished wide plank floors, up to 11" wide for several years now, this include Wide Plank Pine flooring and Hardwood flooring. You can learn more on our website http://www.wideplankflooring.com/how-to-buy/choosing-the-right-wood/prefinished-floors. In fact, every floor in the 2015 Carlisle Collections is prefinished http://www.wideplankflooring.com/collections.  You have some amazing looks to choose from and the convenience of prefinished!

    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 7:07AM
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