Microsilk by Jason Hydrotherapy
Jason International Hydrotherapy (JAcuzzi & SONs original Jacuzzi family that sold the name 30 years ago and has nothing to do with the company by that name)
has come out with a new hyrdrotherapy tecnology called microsilk
sounds really amazing and in talking to an unbiased salesperson from a company that carries pretty much all brandds of tubs, said it is the real deal, not marketing ploy, is really amazing and nice.
Its not vigorous though, even less so then popular air baths, so no massage really but lots of other benefits.
You can get it alone or combined with their Air-Masseur or whirlpool (imagine the ultimate of all 3).
I went with microsilk and air maseur combo as we were replacing an only 5 year old but previous owner (that most likely never cleaned it) plus it got beat up during bathroom demolition for renovation.
Needed a 60x60 corner tub. At first went with a Jacuzzi Bellavista pure-air with chromatherapy and their J5 lcd control panel.
The Bellavista has a nice interior shape and particularly nice outer trim which is tiered beveled kind of designa nd rounded corners. Definately one of the nicest looking corner tubs in a sea of ones that all look the same especially the trim that sits on the decking (drop in).
Also Jacuzzii's J5 LCD control panel is the nicest of thte digital control panels I've seen. I will say that it s eems ppl are still scared of whirlpool jets for the bacteria but dont realize that basically all manufacturers including jacuzzi have taken major measures towards alleviating that concern.
Still ppl think of jacuzzi as bacteria ridden whirlpool jets and I've even seen someone on these forums lump it in with Kohler as cheap, though I dont think either the Jacuzzi or Kohler brand are cheap. I think it was just a really elitist(possibly French,lol) BainUltra snob, lol.
Speaking of BainUltra, i know they were the first to do Air baths so you figure they have it the most perfected but in looking into to their corner tubs and narrowing down to the Amma, I did not like the style at all with weird corners. Also I didn't really see what else it brings to the table.
Was content with going for the Jacuzzi BellaVista 60x60 corner tub with pure-air and chromatherapy lights and the nice digital control panel for the nicest looking tub because lets be honest, thees tubs often dont get used a lot and just looked at, so at least I wouldn't have spent too much (not that that model with those features is cheap but got a good deal originally and its cheaper hten what I ended up getting)
Plus when we used it, i'm sure jacuzzi's pure air (with air holes on the bottom) and the lights and nice 3.5" color lcd control panel would be pretty darn nice.
But alas, when I saw I could get it even another $50 cheaper then the already good price I had, but more importantly once I talked to a rep at the store/site that had it for less and asked about the Jason and especially the microsilk which I was always interested in, I was convinced I needed to cancel my hasty order (was in a rush because bathroom is demo'd and already been delayed so much and needs to get done so I was worried i would have to wait till the tub was in to even do the marble tub decdk surround template).
Also, believe it or not, when I asked my wife her preference between the Jacuzzi BellaVista corner tub and the Jason CC550, she prefered the Bellavista interior and obvioiusly the fancier exterior beveled trim plus the nicer control pad so I just went with that.
Upon hearing how great the microsilk realy was after already being very interested in it, I had to cancel. Decided to go with the microsilk and air masseur combo for the best of both worlds, I convinced her that it was the technology and and insides that matter more then the pretty control panel and exterior of the inferior jacuzzi brand tub. But believe it or not ppl not in the know still only know that brand so that was probably part of it even though friends of ours have a BainUltra I told her.
I dont think she will regret it and will thank me 1000 times over after she experiences the microsilk (some woman would love a husband that gets something like that which woudl regularly more be the woman begging her husband for it). The whole moisturizing and anti aging factors of the microsilk do seem a little more aimed at woman but I think I will like it too, will be good for the kids and overall worth it.
Jason only had 4 corner tubs available with microsilk and air-masseur combined (could be they only have 4 corner tubs altogether). 2 have a seat in the corner (tip of the triangle) which at first I thought would be nice for the kids and like when my daughter is afraid of the bubbles (mostly with powerful whirlpool jets) but then I realized you are basically left with an oval tub as the corner seat takes up valuable useable tub real estate.
?That left 2 models one of which was slight smaller 55x55 so the CC550 was the only 60x60 corner tub by Jason without a seat in the corner.
Its outside angles are actually exactly the same shape I think as the old Jacuzzii (Tara)tub we had, but that could be a good thing as will ensure it fits and works with the current tub box (wood) and hole for the tub plus can be used as a physical template possibly along with the measurements/diagram of the new tub.
Got biscuit (bone would have been too dark a cream to go with all the white and slight off white of our bathroom while the biscuit is just kind of off white) so wont look exact like old tub or as builder grade white. Plus the inside is different and i'm sure overall its going to look different and nicer even if it isnt the Jacuzzi bellavista with fancy beveled trim which would have been stupid to repalce one jacuzzi tub (which the builder probably put in for the first and previous owner 5 years ago).
Also the style of the bellavista especially that bevled trim my wife liked, is techincally a traditional/classic styling while our taste is more contemporary (though it seems as we get older we like to mix the 2 sometimes)
Microsilk is brand new technology (if you can call it that) and will be very exciting to try. Reading all the benefits of it sounds like a lot to live up to as they make it sound like a veritable depression curing, deep sleep inducing, healing, anti aging, fountain of youth that can clean your kids without soap or harsh detergents to boot, lol.
Also, it sounds very clean for the tub and Jason overall seems to have made sanitation a priority. In fact after reading about the bacteria in whirlpools and how air baths came along to give ppl an alternative who were afraid of that, but that air baths were also susceptible to it if water was left in the air tubes. So I stumbled upon Sanijet tubs which are the only nationally sanitary certified or whatever and have pipeless architecture which are fully removable and cleanable.
Did not like their corner design at all though as worse then a seat its just completely filled in wasted space and overall Sanijet seem more for hospitals or hotel spas that get used by 100's of ppl. I think even some nail salons use sanijet footbaths or something.
So although later I did hear that Sanijet is more powerful then air baths like just a bit below whirlpool water jets but for varous reasons wasn't itnerested. But bacteria free sanitation was important to me as it would be anyoen but especially with a wife that doesn't clean much, lol, and kids.
I had read about ppl using Ozone systems to hang in their older whirlpool tubs to alleviate bacteria and that they really work so I was impressed to find that Jason has an automatic ozone system feature. That and microsilk were big selling points for me on the Jason.
The reason the tub was an afterthought and only gave in to even getting a new one till last minute was because we were redoing the shower with bodysprays (also a last minute addition that the wife suggested and at first I said no, only to give in and end up with 8 of them including 4 water tiles which then once I realized I would need more rough in valved and trim kit levers for temp and even volume control, led me to the Kohler DTV (Digital Thermostatic Valve) which controls everything from a digital control pad and declutter your shower wall of all valves. But DTV is for another thread. but one point is with that Kohler dtv (just got the original not the dtv2 which adds steam and music control to the mix) digital interface, I dont think we will miss the Jacuzzi lcd digital control pad over the plainer Jason digital control pad.
point is, the shower is the main attraction and hopefully will give us enough massage from the body sprays like a darn carwash at which point we will need to get in the tub just to heal our soreness from the shower, lol.
Being the shower as it is, i probably could have gone with a tub for less that also just looked nice (though in that case just a soaking tub with no lights and no fancy digital control pad would have been cheapest but then it would really never get used)
So hopefully we use the tub a lot and i think with microsilk we will for ourselves and the kids.
I started this thread mostly to discuss Microsilk and see if there is anyone that actually has it alrady. It just came out in January but I'd think by now plenty of ppl have it.
i will report my review once we get it and installed which seems a long way of and still have the rest of the shower and tiling to finish in the meantime.
There are lots of threads on air baths but most seem older so discussion on different brand air baths is welcome here though I'm sure ppl would like to hear real life testimonials of ppl who have Microsilk.
Also any discussion and experience with Jason tubs in general.
my only concern with their air-masseur is that I was told hte air holes are around the perimeter of the tub and not on the tub floor (as even jacuzzii has) which I see being a slight issue for a big corner tub with big space in the middle far from tub walls and the air holes. But the whole tub gets filled with the microsilk bubbles so should be ok.
Again, thoughts on Jason tubs in general and especially any user experiences with MicroSilk.