20 inch wheels--balancing

toasted_311June 30, 2005

A guy at work has a set of chrome 20" rims and tires(less than two months old) that fit my truck for $800. All for rims have welds on the insides---he said that was the only way to balance the big rims....I've never had anything bigger than a 17". Is this true and safe? If its ok I cant pass up the deal...same rims are 1400 at my tire shop.

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john_g

IMO, save your money, keep the wheels and tires that your truck was designed with. I really don't understand when people spend money on stuff like this, and then when their car needs a real repair claim they don't have enough money to do it! (I'm not saying you do that, just making a statement)

    Bookmark   July 1, 2005 at 9:59AM
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earthworm

I agree 100%, John.
On most cars, these expensive(and troublesome) oversized wheels with ultra low-profile tires look horrible - much like a car/truck with bicycle wheels...And ride about as well..
Better to spend all that money on gas.... and now there is none left...

    Bookmark   July 1, 2005 at 11:26AM
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toasted_311

this is true is...but no one actually answered my question though. So if someone would answer the question posted rather than stating they don't like that style of accessory then I'd be grateful. The only reason I'd get these rims is I can get both rim/tires for half of the new rims costs...I've got the money to spend if I want to on this and it not effect me otherwise. If the wheels are unsafe due to the weld balance then I won't get them.
Thanks

    Bookmark   July 2, 2005 at 12:25AM
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bill_h

the problem wont be the balance, its the rotating mass. you will be lucky if you can keep brakes on it for more than 8000 miles.

    Bookmark   July 2, 2005 at 11:46AM
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john_g

I have never seen welding done to balance a wheel and tire, in fact I have doubts about whether thats actually what it is or not. But lets just say that is what it is there for. When you replace the tires in the future (they will wear out) how much will they cost? Where will you go to have the assemblies rebalanced? How many times will you be able to do it before it makes them look like trash?

BTW it's impossible to give good advice on this kind of stuff when one makes a prudent decision to not waste any money on any of it to gain any experience with it. VBG..

    Bookmark   July 2, 2005 at 12:18PM
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mikie_gw

People weld on rims all the time, but never have heard it used for balancing. Perhaps it was factory balance on the custom machined rims.

Stick on weights work, and as they are soft lead will even form fit a bit if needed.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2005 at 10:57AM
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jemdandy

Maybe the original owner of these 'fancy' wheels did not like the idea of having balance weights in view, hence, he/she went the route of welded weights that were out of sight.

In my opinion, novices should not apply welds to wheels. Before any welds are done, one should know the stress patterns, and how to maintain wheel strength, and if a heat treatment after welding is required, or pre-heating before welding is needed. If the wheel material is aluminim or magnesiom alloy, its gets more dicey.

A cracked wheel is very dangerous, especially when the crack occurs a speed.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2005 at 3:37AM
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sdello

no direct experience with this, but intuitively adding weld material to balance wheels doesn't sound right to me. Balancing is performed by adding specific weight to specific locations. I would think that the variability inherent with adding weldments would make this an ineffective means of balancing the wheel.

Any way to add a picture of the welds?

My 0.02

    Bookmark   July 4, 2005 at 12:19PM
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