Does anyone actually have the Thermador Pro Grand Steam range?

Kitten1313February 2, 2013

I did a search and found some threads of people talking about, but not much of people owning it. Just wondering if anyone has this and what they think. I know in general Thermador doesn't get good reviews here.

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Tuggy3

I have a Thermador Pro Grand-no steam though. In terms of brand reliability my Thermador is 6 years old and I haven't had any trouble with it. It's all gas, not duel fuel. I love it. A friend of mine has an eight year old Pro Grand cooktop with a wok burner-no problem. She has Fisher Paykel ovens and they have been a nightmare from the get go. Mary

    Bookmark   February 2, 2013 at 9:14PM
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subonim

Reviving this thread as I would also love to hear from anyone who actually owns this range. Will be building a home next year and already struggling between going with a mixed bag centered around around a BS or a CC, or going with an all Thermador package which allows for a uniform look and pretty solid appliances in every category. If it does all that it claims and does it well, the ProGrand Steam would save some space in my kitchen design, plus aesthetically it is hard to beat.

There are plenty of threads on BS and CC and I have been reading about them and have visited the BS factory in Reading, PA for a demo. Really looking for more info from folks who have bought Thermador (any of their appliance lines) in the last year or two. It seems to me that their reliability and customer service have improved since they were acquired by BSH but it would be nice to hear from actual owners.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 5:41AM
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anna_

If we don't make any last minute changes like we just did on the fridge, we should have one in a week or two. But still have a month or two before the house is done. Will let you know.

We chose based on how it looked, how it felt to operate, and the features (in that order). The builder discount was also much better on the Thermador line than the Wolf / SZ. I don't like to be first to own anything, but couldn't find anything good or bad about it so decided to take a chance.

It comes with a free dishwasher that can be upgraded to the Sapphire for $200. I like the dishwasher, but no actual experience with it yet.

    Bookmark   March 16, 2013 at 12:51AM
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anna_

Does anyone else have any experience with the Pro Grand Steam? We're trying to do the initial setup and the LCD menu just beeps for any button other than cancel. The manual says to use the +/- buttons to navigate to the setting, then press enter to select. The +, -, and buttons don't do anything but beep. This is for the steam oven LCD menu. The regular convection oven LCD menu works fine.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2013 at 5:01PM
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anna_

Nevermind, found the problem. It says oven needs to be off, but there is a mode selector for the steam oven - proof, defrost, convection, etc. That ring has an off position which it needs to be in before the LCD menu will allow 'settings' to be selected.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2013 at 9:47PM
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subonim

Cool, congrats on the new range. I'll look forward to reading how it works out for you in a few weeks. Hope you love it.

    Bookmark   May 28, 2013 at 6:38PM
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subonim

Cool, congrats on the new range. I'll look forward to reading how it works out for you in a few weeks. Hope you love it.

    Bookmark   May 28, 2013 at 6:39PM
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firstmmo

Anna:
How's the range working?

    Bookmark   May 28, 2013 at 11:52PM
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jennyaz

I have one. Purchased and installed a few months ago... We went with the thermador package: 48 inch fridge (I found the columns lost too much space in the freezer with the way the ice maker fit), upgraded to the sapphire star dishwasher, range hood and the steam range. So far very happy with it. The only part I don't use often is the warming drawer. I would be happy to answer any specific questions.

    Bookmark   July 21, 2013 at 1:21PM
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Kitten1313

Thanks for the reply. I opted for something else. :)

    Bookmark   July 21, 2013 at 4:19PM
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SBH832

How do you like your star sapphire dishwasher?

    Bookmark   August 2, 2013 at 8:47PM
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maria0829

jennyaz, would love to hear about the range! I am considering the same one for a kitchen remodel as part of the Thermador appliance package. Did you get any other appliances..refrigerator/ range hood? Also regarding the range, I have read there is no knob to indicate temperature of the ovens as they heat, only what you set the temperature and you can only increase by 25 degrees? How do you like the steam oven, any water on the floor?Also if you did get other appliances(Thermador or other) would love to hear your opinion, including d/w.
Thanks, I cannot find anyone who has one to talk to yet!!!

    Bookmark   August 8, 2013 at 2:36PM
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vstock

Is there any other feedback on this range? We are considering it and would like to know long it takes or heat from cold to 350.

    Bookmark   December 7, 2013 at 7:18PM
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kiki14

I have this range and love it. The main oven does take a while to heat up to 350��" I think mainly because its a large sized oven. The side oven can be used for a variety of different baking functions��" steaming, baking and convection baking��" and it heats up to 350 significantly more quickly. The smaller side oven is perfect if you have a cake, casserole or side dish to bake. The larger oven (given the longer time it takes to heat up) I find I use more if I'm doing several cookie sheets, or obviously something large, like a turkey. Let me know any other questions, I'm happy to help try to answer them.

    Bookmark   January 8, 2014 at 8:37PM
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subonim

kiki14 - I'm so glad you love your range! I've been downsizing my plans the last few months and am now considering a range top with separate conventional oven and steam oven rather than the beautiful unit you have.

We're framing the house right now and I'll have to make a decision soon.

let me ask you - did you go with all Thermador appliances?
If so, how do you like your DW, fridge and vent hood?

I'm currently comparing a mixed bag of Electrolux, Bosch, Bluestar and Zephyr vs Kobe compared to an all Thermador package for a relatively small amount more $ (able to get a great deal on Therm locally) plus, I'll get delivery to the build site when I want it and a local servicer vs ordering online and having the large items shipped to my current abode to be stored in my garage until the build site is ready at which time I have to get them there...

    Bookmark   January 8, 2014 at 11:00PM
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kiki14

Yes, I went with all Thermador and they've all been great. My DW was the "free with purchase" dishwasher, and I'm glad I didn't spend any extra for the upgrade. It's been a great dishwasher- easy to load and great capacity for pots and pans of varying sizes. (for what it's worthâ¦. the Thermador DW is a rebranded Bosch). I have the French door (freezer on bottom) Thermador fridge, and it's been great as well.
One thing I should mentionâ¦. both the stove and the fridge (esp the fridge) were incredibly heavy and ended up being quite a challenge for my GC to install. They managed, and did a great job, but even they would tell you to be sure to have them professionally installed. If you are doing flush mount installation with your cabinetry (my Thermador fridge and microwave are both flush mount) it makes for something of a more complicated installation. Also the French door fridge has an anti-tip bracket which can be a little challenging to install, but is incredibly important to make sure is done right, because the fridge is top heavy.
All in all, I love my Thermador appliance package, and would do it again in a heartbeat.
Just my two cents⦠but having just gone through the build process, I think it's totally worth it have the local servicer, and to have them deliver when you need them.

    Bookmark   January 9, 2014 at 12:16AM
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subonim

That is great news, thank you! I too am looking at the French door bottom freezer - do you think the internal size is enough, and do you like the layout?

So your DW is the Sapphire model then, right? I think that's one of the rebranded bosch 800 plus series. I've been debating whether to spend 200 to upgrade to their top of the line. Good to know that may not be necessary.

Which vent hood did you go with?

    Bookmark   January 9, 2014 at 7:58AM
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kiki14

Yes, I've been pleasantly surprised with the size of the bottom drawer freezer. It initially looked small to me, but I've been able to get quite a bit of food in there.
And yes, I have the Sapphire dw model. I'm really not sure what extra features come with the upgradeâ¦. the only one I remember is that there is a blue light that illuminates the floor when the cycle is finishedâ¦. for me personally, that wasn't worth $200 : ) I can't say for sure whether there are other features that affect functionality that come with the upgrade, but I can say that I've been happy with what I have.
Unfortunately, I don't remember much about which vent hood I got. I believe it was whatever one they recommended to use with the Pro Grande (it's a big vent hood��" probably because it's a six burner stove top). My cabinetry was custom built around it, so I can't even see it! Sorry I can't be of much help there.

    Bookmark   January 9, 2014 at 10:51AM
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CathyShoe

Kiki 14 and anna
Can you tell us a little more about your range? Do you like the griddle, cleaning griddle and grates, simmer, do you use the steam, how easy is it to fill, use of the warming drawer. If you could buy it all over again would you spend the extra 4000 for the steam pro range?
Thanks!

    Bookmark   March 23, 2014 at 5:09PM
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CathyShoe

I'll go back to the original question and hope for some updates. I am buying a 48 inch range. Does anyone have the thermador pro grand steam and what do you like/not like about it? Im considering the pro grand steam vs. wolf duel fuel vs wolf all gas. I really want self cleaning but on the other hand I do not want to replace a burnt out control panel. I'd love to have a steam oven and warming drawer and thermador "gives" you a dishwasher. But Wolf seems more loved on the boards. I want to buy from a company that makes a good product and stands behind it.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2014 at 7:13AM
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CathyShoe

I'll go back to the original question and hope for some updates. I am buying a 48 inch range. Does anyone have the thermador pro grand steam and what do you like/not like about it? Im considering the pro grand steam vs. wolf duel fuel vs wolf all gas. I really want self cleaning but on the other hand I do not want to replace a burnt out control panel. I'd love to have a steam oven and warming drawer and thermador "gives" you a dishwasher. But Wolf seems more loved on the boards. I want to buy from a company that makes a good product and stands behind it.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2014 at 7:16AM
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LauraFaye

Any more thorough reviews of the range and all it's features?

    Bookmark   May 20, 2014 at 9:16PM
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Kelliq

Happy with the steam oven? Would you buy again? Can't decide between rangetop and Miele steam oven and one of their convection ovens or the big pro. On one of the many threads someone said they are glad they don't have a range due to all heat in one place and a professional chef said why bend over with a range when you can have wall oven and not bend over. That being said, I love the way this range looks and the griddle sounds like something we would use too.
Thanks!!

    Bookmark   June 29, 2014 at 12:00AM
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SteveCA

I too am interested in this range. I was going to buy a BS range top, wolf steam convection and L series oven but prefer the space savings that this range provides by incorporating all three into one unit. The steam oven is not as big as the wolf steam convection though. It will not fit an entire prime rib roast where the wolf looks long enough to roast a whole rib roast.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 12:04AM
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amoopen1

Any new feedback on this range? We are hopefully starting to build our house this year and we are strongly considering this range because of all the features built in, specifically the steam oven. We haven't heard many real world experiences with this range and want to be assured before spending in this price range. Thanks!

    Bookmark   January 4, 2015 at 8:24AM
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jennyaz

I posted a while ago and never came back to answer the questions- sorry! I can give an update: Weve had the range for about 18 months now and we are very happy with it. We use the griddle very often, the grill insert from time to time The steam oven works well- no water on the floor- the water container has a lid that closes before you slip it in the slot. My only complaint- the small oven does not brown evenly on convention bake- I baked 2 pies in there at Thanksgiving (one at a time)- and the tops browned more at the back end of the over- had to be careful and cover with aluminum foil to avoid burning. We've had problems with the circular thermometer in the center of the range- In my opinion this is a silly feature - it does not really reflect the temperature inside the oven as i moves immediately on setting on or off, and something was wrong with the way it was wired into our range- the wires came loose at least twice- we had the warranty so repair was completely free - might as well since it was free, and now its been fine - I wouldnt pay to repair this as it is not very useful. I have never used self clean- and after readying about frying electronics I have elected to not use that feature and clean the oven myself.

    Bookmark   January 11, 2015 at 7:33PM
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