Question about Miele DW and custom panels

thecloseFebruary 11, 2013

Hello All,

I have been doing a bit of research on dishwashers and have decided on a Miele. Problem is I want white. This is going into an existing kitchen of a home we are buying and I will be unable to match the cabs with a custom panel. I also really like the features of the Dimension, which does not come in white.

I read on the kitchens forum that someone attached an IKEA appliance front to a Miele dishwasher. Can anyone confirm that this is possible? They sell white fronts and if this would work, I would be very happy!

Thanks!

Maggie

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shadow700

I just installed a Miele G5775 in our Adel Medium Brown IKEA kitchen using a standard IKEA cabinet door (24x30").

For me, it was part number 401.159.85 ($114).

    Bookmark   February 11, 2013 at 10:50AM
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doug_gb

The Miele DW comes with a bracket and a template.

You can attach anything to the front of the DW - just so it's the correct height/width.

    Bookmark   February 11, 2013 at 12:25PM
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theclose

Thank you both so much!

@doug, I wasn't sure about that and I saw someone used IKEA. Figured that might be the easiest since they are pre-made. But good to know I can use something else - though not sure what else I would use!

@shadow, thank you!! One question - why did you go with the door and not the IKEA appliance front? Was there less work involved?

    Bookmark   February 11, 2013 at 12:59PM
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doug_gb

"though not sure what else I would use!"

All it is, is a wooden panel. Maybe an Ikea door will fit.

Alternatively you can take the Miele panel specifications to Home Depot / Lowes / etc and see what kind of kitchen cabinet fronts they have, and they can make you a panel.

    Bookmark   February 11, 2013 at 1:21PM
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theclose

Thanks, doug!! Appreciate the help. I have never purchased a DW, nor a home for that matter!, and I just want to make sure I am not creating a big hassle by getting the Miele that requires a custom panel.

    Bookmark   February 11, 2013 at 1:38PM
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shadow700

It's not really a question of work (although there is less work with a cabinet door since it is already the right size).

I never considered the appliance front since it is just a flat panel.

In our kitchen, using the door makes the DW looks just like the cabinets that flank it.

    Bookmark   February 11, 2013 at 4:31PM
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theclose

Thanks, shadow. That makes sense. Hmmm..maybe I should try it with one of their plain white cabinet fronts if there would be no cutting involved. Food for thought!

    Bookmark   February 11, 2013 at 4:50PM
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kaseki

Since we are on the subject, I have a comment about paneled door panels used on the Miele. If the panel simulates a lower cabinet look of a drawer at the top and door below it, and the style is Shaker or similar, a 3/4-inch panel will be rather thin where the "drawer" and "door" "rails" meet. Warping there can be a problem, mounted or just set aside waiting for the dishwasher install. The Miele structure for grasping the panel is too flimsey to correct the warp. I had to do some aggressive bending and reinforcing on my panel.

In hindsight, I would suggest a stiff (0.080 maybe) sheet of stainless that the Miele mount is attached to onto which the panel is screwed (preferably as soon as it is fabricated). Then the dishwasher would have to be mounted a bit further back to make the panel front flush with the other cabinets. To not see a stainless steel edge, the door outer rails and stiles could be thicker and an undersized stainless sheet embedded within it. Various variations on this concept may be considered to improve upon it given some cooperation by the cabinet maker.

kas

    Bookmark   February 12, 2013 at 9:36AM
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doug_gb

@kaseki: "a 3/4-inch panel will be rather thin where the "drawer" and "door" "rails" meet. "

Our Miele has a SS control panel where the drawer front would be. The control panel is not as deep as a drawer, and under the control panel are three SS spring loaded spacers. These spacers can be adjusted so the control panel is the same depth as your drawer front.

The panel on our Miele is just the height of a door.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2013 at 10:57AM
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SparklingWater

"If the panel simulates a lower cabinet look of a drawer at the top and door below it, and the style is Shaker or similar, a 3/4-inch panel will be rather thin where the "drawer" and "door" "rails" meet."

I'm thinking about the 3/4" full custom wood panel, not with drawer. Are there any problems in its acceptance you could give me a heads up on? I understand I need a 4" toe kick for optimal door opening/dropping down and that with the wood panel, the door is heavy? Are the hinges stressed? What about spills from countertop and warp, any advise? Thanks.

    Bookmark   February 28, 2013 at 9:55AM
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Caliente63

@kaseki: "a 3/4-inch panel will be rather thin where the "drawer" and "door" "rails" meet. "

I can think of two approaches.

1. One panel, with a single wide rail between the "drawer" and "door", and a 1/8" routed groove to give the appearance of two separate pieces. The routed channel would only need to be 1/4" deep; leaving 1/2" structural "meat".

2. Separate drawer and door panels, routed on the back to accommodate a stout metal joining plate.

How is your panel made?

    Bookmark   February 28, 2013 at 12:58PM
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xedos

Kaseki - I think you need a need a new cabinet man.

I've been using and rec. these DWs for two decade and I have yet to get a warped DW panel from my suppliers.

Perhaps a re- think of the cabinet/ door - drawer construction is in order.

Typically, a drawer head is made and a door is made. They are attached together with dowels in the edges or metal straps routed into the backs. These parts are ready made to accomplish this and are available through places like Hafele. If you have inset cabs, the process is similar but you can't use the ready made hardware.

    Bookmark   February 28, 2013 at 6:06PM
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