Oh my goodness -- look at this auction

mahatmacat1June 19, 2009

What is this mark, the triangle D? I didn't see it in Dux, but maybe I just missed it...who is J. Stewart? Imagine if more people knew about it? The bidding war? AY AY AY. The sellers had NO idea about what this was.

Here is a link that might be useful: the auction of my dreams...

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lindac

J Stewart is a famous sculptor....but I didn't know he worked in porcelain.....and I have no idea what that "D" is.
The winning bidder is "private"....makes you wonder......
Linda c

    Bookmark   June 19, 2009 at 3:25PM
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alisande

The seller started the auction at $49. I wonder if he had a reserve on it.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2009 at 9:28PM
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lindac

Very fishy.....why would someone jump a bid to $11,000 and something and lose it for $100....in the last 3 hours?

    Bookmark   June 20, 2009 at 1:10AM
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mahatmacat1

Linda, do you have a link to the J Stewart you're referring to? I'm not sure of the one I found.

and the way I read it, the guy who won had a bid that exceeded the private guy's bid, and the private guy tried to win it in the last minute, but was outbid by that $100 (maybe just the minimum bidding margin, at that level?) and couldn't place a re-bid? Didn't work it fast enough?

It sure does look fishy, though, just by price alone. Wonder what the story is.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2009 at 2:47AM
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lindac

Private started the bidding at 100, ss went to $155....the next bid by private was $11,175...nothing in between, and lost it to ss for an additional $100....3 hours after the big jump.
Fishey!
As to Stewart....I just knew he was a sculptor....but upon googling, I find there are several who could be J...a John and a James....but the one I was remembering was actually Dana Stewart. I saw his work at Grounds for Sculpture in New jersey.
So...I guess I am confused! LOL!

    Bookmark   June 20, 2009 at 10:27AM
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colleenoz

Not fishy: "Only actual bids (not automatic bids generated up to a bidder's maximum) are shown.". So, assuming both bidders have recognised this piece as valuable, if bidder 1 had revised his original maximum bid after the first round and put as his/her maximum bid "$11,175" (always better to pick an odd amount so other bidders won't pick it as well) and bidder 2 had chosen, say, "$11,100" using the same principle, then the bid history wouldn't show the incremental back and forth all the way up to the "$11,175" beating out the "$11,100" bid, it would merely show the final winner of that particular round. Then, if bidder 2 didn't up his/her bid by enough and time ran out...

    Bookmark   June 21, 2009 at 12:13PM
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beck1

Yes, but when you look at the automatic bids nothing is there!

    Bookmark   June 21, 2009 at 3:47PM
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antiquesilver

I don't see anything fishy in the least - just 2 knowledgeable bidders who wanted the statue, knew the value, & cut to the chase about bidding on it. The losing bidder placed his bid 4 days before the auction ended; maybe he was going out of town or whatever & wouldn't be around at closing time to bid so he bid his maximum. The winning bidder didn't know what the other bidder's high amount was so he bid his maximum - & it happened to be more than the losing bidder's. There was no reserve.

I bet the Seller did the Happy Dance when the auction ended!

    Bookmark   June 22, 2009 at 1:33AM
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lindac

Yeah....I just checked the dates, you are correct. Think of all the time, though that the loser thought he had the bid for $155!
I still want to know just what it is! And wonder what the seller paid for the piece!!
Linda C

    Bookmark   June 22, 2009 at 9:58AM
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mahatmacat1

That's what I thought, you all -- that it was a clever outbid and the person who had the high bid didn't, for whatever reason, check back at the last minute...

    Bookmark   June 22, 2009 at 4:58PM
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mahatmacat1

Meant to add an OH YEAH to antiquesilver's bet :)

    Bookmark   June 22, 2009 at 7:45PM
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lazy_gardens

It was "sniped": the winning bidder was using software to pile in at the last few seconds with his maximum bid.

Auction end was at 18:00:00 and he landed with 57 seconds to go.

US $11,175.00 Jun-14-09 17:59:03 PDT

    Bookmark   June 28, 2009 at 4:08PM
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mahatmacat1

Well, as a person who generally bids within the last 10 seconds of any auction (personally, not with any automated service), I think 57 seconds is *most* sporting. The other bidder would have had more than enough time to counter-bid if s/he had been watching at all...

And again, WOW.

    Bookmark   June 28, 2009 at 10:16PM
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caroles_jungle

WOW... I can dream of a lucky find. Must have been a bidding error. Check it out... relisted.

180375927345

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_rdc=1&item=180375927345&viewitem=&salenotsupported

    Bookmark   July 1, 2009 at 2:57PM
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i_dig_it

Hmmm.... How can two bidders make the same bidding error???

Will be interesting to see how this one ends.

Janet

    Bookmark   July 1, 2009 at 3:29PM
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darenka

OK, I admit I just surf around on this forum from time to time because I like antiques, but really know nothing about them. So what was this action all about. How much should that piece gone for? I admit, I thought it was stunning, but waaay out of my price range for prettiness. Can someone educate the village idiot?

    Bookmark   July 1, 2009 at 5:37PM
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lindac

The problem is...it seems no one can educate the "villiage idiot"...because it seems we are all idiots as far as this auction is concerned.
Thinking more and more that my original statement of "fishy" was correct...
You don't suppose the one who had the winning $11,000.plus bid was really the sellers cousin???
Nah!!
Linda C

    Bookmark   July 1, 2009 at 11:32PM
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Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana

It was "sniped": the winning bidder was using software to pile in at the last few seconds with his maximum bid.

Auction end was at 18:00:00 and he landed with 57 seconds to go.

US $11,175.00 Jun-14-09 17:59:03 PDT
No, it wasn't sniped. The winning bid was placed on June 10th, 4 days before it closed. What is strange though too, is that the high bid is $100 above the next lowest bid, yet other bids were made in smaller increments.

all bids on the closed auction

It is up for sale again. See link below.

Here is a link that might be useful: POLAR BEAR Family CERAMIC Art Pottery SCULPTURE~Signed

    Bookmark   July 2, 2009 at 12:45PM
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mahatmacat1

Just crazy. Wonder if we'll ever figure out the real story.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2009 at 3:12PM
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